Blue-Gloved Nonrev Juicers
03-24-2017, 06:38 AM
#322
Not A Janitor
Joined APC: Aug 2008
Posts: 814
Originally Posted by Southerner
You don't get to "end the discussion." I'm not defending the expectation. I'm saying that's the policy, and we work for a company that has decided that's what they want the non-rev policy to be. You have recourse with this policy. You may:
1. Choose to not travel as a non-rev. Seems a little silly to me, but that's your choice.
2. Choose to leave JetBlue to find that greener grass. This one may be your best option if JetBlue makes you that angry. Life is short. Go be happy. Especially if you're senior to me. So long, farewell.
Otherwise, if you non-rev, comply with the policy. It's fairly simple.
As far as the choices go, I never said that cleaning and paying a fee were the only options. I never really offered what the options were. I said I prefer helping out the operating crew versus paying a fee, which is true. I do prefer that.
1. Choose to not travel as a non-rev. Seems a little silly to me, but that's your choice.
2. Choose to leave JetBlue to find that greener grass. This one may be your best option if JetBlue makes you that angry. Life is short. Go be happy. Especially if you're senior to me. So long, farewell.
Otherwise, if you non-rev, comply with the policy. It's fairly simple.
As far as the choices go, I never said that cleaning and paying a fee were the only options. I never really offered what the options were. I said I prefer helping out the operating crew versus paying a fee, which is true. I do prefer that.
03-24-2017, 07:33 AM
#324
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
Posts: 6,881
Originally Posted by Southerner
You don't get to "end the discussion." I'm not defending the expectation. I'm saying that's the policy, and we work for a company that has decided that's what they want the non-rev policy to be. You have recourse with this policy. You may:
1. Choose to not travel as a non-rev. Seems a little silly to me, but that's your choice.
2. Choose to leave JetBlue to find that greener grass. This one may be your best option if JetBlue makes you that angry. Life is short. Go be happy. Especially if you're senior to me. So long, farewell.
Otherwise, if you non-rev, comply with the policy. It's fairly simple.
As far as the choices go, I never said that cleaning and paying a fee were the only options. I never really offered what the options were. I said I prefer helping out the operating crew versus paying a fee, which is true. I do prefer that.
1. Choose to not travel as a non-rev. Seems a little silly to me, but that's your choice.
2. Choose to leave JetBlue to find that greener grass. This one may be your best option if JetBlue makes you that angry. Life is short. Go be happy. Especially if you're senior to me. So long, farewell.
Otherwise, if you non-rev, comply with the policy. It's fairly simple.
As far as the choices go, I never said that cleaning and paying a fee were the only options. I never really offered what the options were. I said I prefer helping out the operating crew versus paying a fee, which is true. I do prefer that.
4. Use CBA negotiations to ensure our contract states that no pilot is EVER expected to clean an airplane at ANY time.
See, there you go leaving out options again. What is your agenda exactly?
03-24-2017, 07:52 AM
#325
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 1,316
Originally Posted by Bluedriver
4. Use CBA negotiations to ensure our contract states that no pilot is EVER expected to clean an airplane at ANY time.
03-24-2017, 08:16 AM
#326
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2008
Posts: 1,236
Originally Posted by Xtreme87
Does anybody know if that is something the union is looking at negotiating? Seems like such a stupid thing to have to negotiate.
03-24-2017, 09:09 AM
#328
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jul 2016
Posts: 46
So aside from the two extreme examples (not picking up any trash vs picking up everything) - What is the norm? I've always just straightened up my own row (ABC or DEF not the whole row.) while sitting in the back of ANY flight, just as a courtesy, but is more usually expected? and does it come with dirty looks?
03-24-2017, 09:17 AM
#329
Right left right
Joined APC: Aug 2016
Position: Rebel
Posts: 65
Originally Posted by Bilbo T Baggins
So aside from the two extreme examples (not picking up any trash vs picking up everything) - What is the norm? I've always just straightened up my own row (ABC or DEF not the whole row.) while sitting in the back of ANY flight, just as a courtesy, but is more usually expected? and does it come with dirty looks?
That's it , light cleaning
03-24-2017, 09:19 AM
#330
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2013
Position: CA
Posts: 1,211
Originally Posted by Bilbo T Baggins
So aside from the two extreme examples (not picking up any trash vs picking up everything) - What is the norm? I've always just straightened up my own row (ABC or DEF not the whole row.) while sitting in the back of ANY flight, just as a courtesy, but is more usually expected? and does it come with dirty looks?
I walk off and say "bu-bye" and that's been it....every time. Works like a charm.
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