Kalitta Air (K4) Information
04-11-2020, 11:25 PM
#3081
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2012
Position: Gear Slinger
Posts: 708
Originally Posted by Glenn Would
Does anyone here know how stringent K4 will be about hiring non-777-typed pilots in the coming months? I’m a former TSH-carrier guy out of work, and looking to hang my hat here. Quals are 5k TT, 1.9k 121 TPIC, LCA, 4-year degree, 2 types in RJ’s only, and 2 potential internal recs (haven’t gotten recs from them just yet). Planning on applying to see what happens, but realistically, what are my chances at getting the interview?
04-12-2020, 01:49 AM
#3082
Line Holder
Joined APC: Feb 2013
Posts: 52
Originally Posted by captsurf
...or because most, if not all ALPA carriers have a clause in their contract that “the company shall make reasonable efforts to fill vacancies who satisfy the hiring standards, who have previously worked for carriers represented by ALPA, and who are no longer working for those carriers for economic reasons such as lay-offs or the shutdown of that carrier”
Sorry that me wanting to find a source of income during a downturn and possible unemployment hurts your feelings. Just putting feelers out there, that’s all. Guess I’ll just go broke and default on my mortgage because you’re so insulted that I think Kalitta is the best of the ACMI carriers and I’d actually want to work there.
Sorry that me wanting to find a source of income during a downturn and possible unemployment hurts your feelings. Just putting feelers out there, that’s all. Guess I’ll just go broke and default on my mortgage because you’re so insulted that I think Kalitta is the best of the ACMI carriers and I’d actually want to work there.
04-12-2020, 04:16 AM
#3083
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: 747 captain
Posts: 1,549
Originally Posted by Slatsnflaps
If I may play devils advocate, in a bizarre universe when a Freight dog has been furloughed or found himself or herself without a job, has any "major" carrier accepted a mass exodus with open arms as a harbor during turbulent storms? I think not! Yet the arrogance seems to flow very strong from the other side. I believe it was not a month a go a regional was given the opportunity to interview under preferrentail circumstances and the carrier told the ACMI to pound sand out of spite from the union. Some have made their bed, maybe they should lie in it a little while.
But there are some that even during downturns feel "special" those are the ones that feel a sense of entitlement because they read an interview gouge and made it at the bottom of the pile at some carrier and that gives them a sense of validation of their superior skills and qualifications.
Just go back on this site 6 months ago and see what some folks were saying about Spirit, Swift, Easter 3.0 and the ACMI's Now they are angry because these same carriers that are way below their superior airmanship skills don't call them for an interview!
This business dishes out humble pie in large portions!
04-12-2020, 06:34 AM
#3084
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Joined APC: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,811
Originally Posted by The Dominican
It's always like that isn't it? Pilots always measure from their current seat and terms, it is only during hard times that people realize that our existence in this paid hobby of ours is fragile to say the least.
But there are some that even during downturns feel "special" those are the ones that feel a sense of entitlement because they read an interview gouge and made it at the bottom of the pile at some carrier and that gives them a sense of validation of their superior skills and qualifications.
Just go back on this site 6 months ago and see what some folks were saying about Spirit, Swift, Easter 3.0 and the ACMI's Now they are angry because these same carriers that are way below their superior airmanship skills don't call them for an interview!
This business dishes out humble pie in large portions!
But there are some that even during downturns feel "special" those are the ones that feel a sense of entitlement because they read an interview gouge and made it at the bottom of the pile at some carrier and that gives them a sense of validation of their superior skills and qualifications.
Just go back on this site 6 months ago and see what some folks were saying about Spirit, Swift, Easter 3.0 and the ACMI's Now they are angry because these same carriers that are way below their superior airmanship skills don't call them for an interview!
This business dishes out humble pie in large portions!
04-12-2020, 07:12 AM
#3085
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: C47 PIC/747-400 SIC
Posts: 2,100
I will always be grateful for the home K4 provided me 2011-14 during my furlough from my Frac , two 747 types , great peeps , great flying , I loved and treasured my time there . God bless . Cheers out 😎
04-12-2020, 07:20 PM
#3086
Banned
Joined APC: Mar 2020
Posts: 92
Originally Posted by Glenn Would
Does anyone here know how stringent K4 will be about hiring non-777-typed pilots in the coming months? I’m a former TSH-carrier guy out of work, and looking to hang my hat here. Quals are 5k TT, 1.9k 121 TPIC, LCA, 4-year degree, 2 types in RJ’s only, and 2 potential internal recs (haven’t gotten recs from them just yet). Planning on applying to see what happens, but realistically, what are my chances at getting the interview?
Just observational data that I can offer.
04-13-2020, 12:46 PM
#3088
Line Holder
Joined APC: Feb 2016
Position: CA
Posts: 37
Originally Posted by The Dominican
It's always like that isn't it? Pilots always measure from their current seat and terms, it is only during hard times that people realize that our existence in this paid hobby of ours is fragile to say the least.
But there are some that even during downturns feel "special" those are the ones that feel a sense of entitlement because they read an interview gouge and made it at the bottom of the pile at some carrier and that gives them a sense of validation of their superior skills and qualifications.
Just go back on this site 6 months ago and see what some folks were saying about Spirit, Swift, Easter 3.0 and the ACMI's Now they are angry because these same carriers that are way below their superior airmanship skills don't call them for an interview!
This business dishes out humble pie in large portions!
But there are some that even during downturns feel "special" those are the ones that feel a sense of entitlement because they read an interview gouge and made it at the bottom of the pile at some carrier and that gives them a sense of validation of their superior skills and qualifications.
Just go back on this site 6 months ago and see what some folks were saying about Spirit, Swift, Easter 3.0 and the ACMI's Now they are angry because these same carriers that are way below their superior airmanship skills don't call them for an interview!
This business dishes out humble pie in large portions!
04-13-2020, 01:48 PM
#3089
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Joined APC: Mar 2012
Position: Gear Slinger
Posts: 708
Originally Posted by Hendrix
Is anyone else looking forward to the demise of the Job Fairs, scam mainline flows, Ab-initio programs or the hiring websites like AirlineApps.com or PilotCredentials.com that have sucked money from well-qualified, hungry applicants? I think their time has run its course. Hope they choke on some humble pie too.
04-13-2020, 03:56 PM
#3090
Banned
Joined APC: Mar 2020
Posts: 92
Five years ago, you may of been the only person to show up to interview at Kalitta, with the previous contract. Many colleagues would say, "I'll send an app in after they pass the new contract". That's all fine and dandy, but none of my colleagues were smart enough to realize they would no longer be competitive for the job once it did pass. The pilot job market might as well be the stock market. You need to spot that diamond in the rough before everyone else does.
Maybe I'll get a lot of flack for saying this, but I think Atlas is that diamond in the rough right now once the management team removes their heads from their asses. The stock price is low so getting in will be easier than K4.
Maybe I'll get a lot of flack for saying this, but I think Atlas is that diamond in the rough right now once the management team removes their heads from their asses. The stock price is low so getting in will be easier than K4.
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