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Old 11-30-2017, 01:57 PM
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That is a minimum number based on the new airplanes
So it looks like a minimum of 80 captain upgrades, what date of hire would these 80 upgrades reach roughly?
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Old 11-30-2017, 05:01 PM
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So it looks like a minimum of 80 captain upgrades, what date of hire would these 80 upgrades reach roughly?
If that's true, and they put out a vacancy bid for 80 upgrades, and going off of the seniority list and bypasses of last bid...damn near everyone on the seniority list right now as an FO would get it.

The last alternate for the last bid was 55ish on the FO seniority list for December. That would put it all the way down to 135 and there was 142 people on December's seniority list for FO's.

edit:It would be a little less then that because I didn't take into account the 76 seniority list. But conservatively people with less then 1 year seniority could be awarded a captain bid. When they get through training with the backlog and need to hire more FO's is anyone's guess though.
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Old 11-30-2017, 05:36 PM
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If that's true, and they put out a vacancy bid for 80 upgrades, and going off of the seniority list and bypasses of last bid...damn near everyone on the seniority list right now as an FO would get it.

The last alternate for the last bid was 55ish on the FO seniority list for December. That would put it all the way down to 135 and there was 142 people on December's seniority list for FO's.

edit:It would be a little less then that because I didn't take into account the 76 seniority list. But conservatively people with less then 1 year seniority could be awarded a captain bid. When they get through training with the backlog and need to hire more FO's is anyone's guess though.
That definitely paints a good picture of the first officer landscape, thank you.

I know you were hired about a year ago, where does that put you number-wise on the fo list?
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Old 12-01-2017, 09:24 AM
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Damn it, I never get a break from studying the manuals at this company, here comes more upgradeeezzz!
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Old 12-01-2017, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by maxjet View Post
That is a minimum number based on the new airplanes
Great. Now I'm going to have to hear these guys fresh off IOE preach about becoming captains with their extensive international experience. Should be very annoying after about the 8th hour enroute.
Aside from that, nice to see K4 doing so well, hope we can keep it up!
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Old 12-01-2017, 12:53 PM
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Great. Now I'm going to have to hear these guys fresh off IOE preach about becoming captains with their extensive international experience. Should be very annoying after about the 8th hour enroute.
Aside from that, nice to see K4 doing so well, hope we can keep it up!
There will always be those that play it humble in the interview and reveal themselves to be arrogant after being set loose from IOE, just have to live with it I suppose. Hopefully there aren't too many that can make it through a career like this.

You wouldn't see me with anything close to what you described, and hopefully that leaves me in the majority.
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Old 12-02-2017, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Colt45 View Post
Great. Now I'm going to have to hear these guys fresh off IOE preach about becoming captains with their extensive international experience. Should be very annoying after about the 8th hour enroute.
Or you could take the eight hours in route to mentor the new guys(myself included) and help them prepare for the upgrade...idk just a thought.
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Or you could take the eight hours in route to mentor the new guys(myself included) and help them prepare for the upgrade...idk just a thought.
Agreed, IOE only covers so much.
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Old 12-02-2017, 05:14 PM
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When new FO's are sending text's during lineup and running the lineup checklist or turning other pilots in for using VS when that was the clearance, I'm not sure (at least those two guys) that they're interested in mentoring. They've got other things in mind.
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Anyone heard of calls going out lately, and anyone getting called what are your stats?
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