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Old 12-13-2017, 03:53 AM
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Like how this fancy new scheduling program creates some lines that are 90 hours and others that are 25.
Not to mention the new K4 crew scheduling standard of limited back half lines. Say what you will about S.R., but I kinda miss the guy. Also, does it seem that crew scheduling is just not sending new/junior guys home on time, in order to not use the will fly list? If true, that's a low ball move.
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Old 12-13-2017, 04:30 AM
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Not to mention the new K4 crew scheduling standard of limited back half lines. Say what you will about S.R., but I kinda miss the guy. Also, does it seem that crew scheduling is just not sending new/junior guys home on time, in order to not use the will fly list? If true, that's a low ball move.
If you miss SR you are .... well never mind. The lines are still built by hand.... and frankly other than "institutional flying"..such as Asiana and now Turkish ... pure 1st half or 2nd half lines are just not practical from a utilization standpoint. You cant have 50 or more guys all come out on the same day when just isnt that much "origin" type flying that starts on that one day.... lines have to be staggered.. thats just the way it is.. even the hono line and 1st half line are staggered... under the old method because of the 5 day rule... you might come out and have 1-5 CDD "contract duty days" to deal with... Lord I could imagine the outcry if guys came out on a line like that and you got 4 lay over days in CVG to start your month... rant over.
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Old 12-13-2017, 04:47 AM
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Or the military... or charter... or anyone other than a legacy nowadays.
Now that I've been flying UPS and FEDEX stuff, I myself wouldn't even consider them anymore. At least domestically. Yesterday a UPS guy asked what I was paying at the hotel we're both staying at. I don't think he liked my answer. And the hub flying? Forget it! I like it here.
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Old 12-13-2017, 06:09 AM
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Now that I've been flying UPS and FEDEX stuff, I myself wouldn't even consider them anymore. At least domestically. Yesterday a UPS guy asked what I was paying at the hotel we're both staying at. I don't think he liked my answer. And the hub flying? Forget it! I like it here.
I'm guessing you were on a layover, and he was a commuter paying for a hotel out of pocket? If so then this is apples to oranges.

Hub turns are not for everyone, but there are lot of schedule options at UPS and FEDEX.
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Old 12-13-2017, 06:39 AM
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If I may.... can someone please tell me what the actual first year pay is for a new guy at K4? Is it comparable to pay at any regional? I'm trying to determine what the best course of action is for me to get my foot in the door with 121 flying after retirement from the Marine Corps and still afford my mortgage. Thank you all in advance.
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Old 12-13-2017, 07:45 AM
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Gents,

If I may.... can someone please tell me what the actual first year pay is for a new guy at K4? Is it comparable to pay at any regional? I'm trying to determine what the best course of action is for me to get my foot in the door with 121 flying after retirement from the Marine Corps and still afford my mortgage. Thank you all in advance.
currently $101 per hour.. 64 hour guarantee... going to 106ish dollars per hour on 20 DEC.. still 64 hour guarantee
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Old 12-13-2017, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Colt45 View Post
Not to mention the new K4 crew scheduling standard of limited back half lines. Say what you will about S.R., but I kinda miss the guy. Also, does it seem that crew scheduling is just not sending new/junior guys home on time, in order to not use the will fly list? If true, that's a low ball move.
Don’t worry, you can still feel the S.R. love when you discover the hotel breakfast is no longer free.
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Old 12-13-2017, 10:26 AM
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Can any of you K4 guys help me get a job there? I have 5300 tt 1300 pic in turbo prop 121 and currently flying a 737-800 ng i have about 600 hrs SIC right now thanks
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Old 12-13-2017, 10:39 AM
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Thanks for the numbers HercDriver.... is there a currency requirement within a calendar year K4 would like to see on a resume in order to obtain an interview? I see nothing listed on their page at APC pertaining to this. Thank you.
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Old 12-13-2017, 12:33 PM
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Thanks for the numbers HercDriver.... is there a currency requirement within a calendar year K4 would like to see on a resume in order to obtain an interview? I see nothing listed on their page at APC pertaining to this. Thank you.
They would like to see you actively flying.. certainly within the last year.
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