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12-23-2016, 09:06 AM
#101
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2010
Position: 744 ;1A
Posts: 136
Yes, The healthcare costs went up. Some would say significantly, some would say not in relation to the pay raise. For instance, if you were employed longer than five years, you paid not a dime for our CADILLAC health insurance. So, any increase would mathematically be significant. However, with a substantial pay raise I am ok with the increase.
12-23-2016, 09:22 AM
#102
B744 for 17 days a month
Joined APC: Dec 2014
Position: B747-400 CA
Posts: 36
Originally Posted by Forty5N
Yes, The healthcare costs went up. Some would say significantly, some would say not in relation to the pay raise. For instance, if you were employed longer than five years, you paid not a dime for our CADILLAC health insurance. So, any increase would mathematically be significant. However, with a substantial pay raise I am ok with the increase.
12-23-2016, 10:12 AM
#103
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2008
Posts: 2,930
Originally Posted by Forty5N
Monthly Guarantee went up 2 hours, to 64.
And, we now have business or better class travel on legs over 3 hours that begin or end outside the conus. A slight perdiem increase. Better language in the training end of things. Better Hotel language. There are a lot of little improvements which on top of the pay make it fairly palatable. Is it industry leading? NO, but it is better in many areas with no major setbacks.
And, we now have business or better class travel on legs over 3 hours that begin or end outside the conus. A slight perdiem increase. Better language in the training end of things. Better Hotel language. There are a lot of little improvements which on top of the pay make it fairly palatable. Is it industry leading? NO, but it is better in many areas with no major setbacks.
12-23-2016, 11:22 AM
#104
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2010
Position: 744 ;1A
Posts: 136
This is one fairly senior captain on the -400 with NO days off flying included. These numbers are pay hours and not hours flown. There are some soft credits thrown in. In monthly order for 2015; 80;89;98;83;vacay;87; 84; 57; 92; 109; 65; 97.
For 2016; only worked 8 months due medical stuff, 74; 68; 92; 101; 84; 67; 83; 80.
None of this is from calling scheduling and begging/whining and stealing trips.
I don't expect things will change dramatically in the near future.
For 2016; only worked 8 months due medical stuff, 74; 68; 92; 101; 84; 67; 83; 80.
None of this is from calling scheduling and begging/whining and stealing trips.
I don't expect things will change dramatically in the near future.
12-23-2016, 01:48 PM
#106
VHR-very happily retired
Joined APC: Aug 2007
Position: Retired
Posts: 1,409
Originally Posted by jimchi
CAPTAIN
Years DOS DOS+1 DOS+2 DOS+3
1 130.80 137.34 142.84 149.98
2 167.14 175.49 182.51 191.64
3 193.63 203.31 211.44 222.01
4 199.75 209.74 218.13 229.03
5 207.89 218.28 227.01 238.36
6 214.01 224.71 233.70 245.38
7 220.13 231.14 240.38 252.40
8 226.24 237.55 247.05 259.40
9 232.36 243.98 253.74 266.42
10 238.45 250.37 260.39 273.41
11 244.57 256.80 267.08 280.43
12 249.67 262.16 272.64 286.28
FO
Years DOS DOS+1 DOS+2 DOS+3
1 101.56 106.63 110.90 116.44
2 113.65 119.33 124.10 130.31
3 131.66 138.24 143.77 150.96
4 135.81 142.60 148.31 155.72
5 141.36 148.43 154.37 162.08
6 145.51 152.79 158.90 166.85
7 149.70 157.18 163.47 171.64
8 153.84 161.53 167.99 176.39
9 158.01 165.91 172.54 181.17
10 162.15 170.25 177.06 185.92
11 165.39 173.65 180.60 189.63
12 168.70 177.14 184.22 193.43
Years DOS DOS+1 DOS+2 DOS+3
1 130.80 137.34 142.84 149.98
2 167.14 175.49 182.51 191.64
3 193.63 203.31 211.44 222.01
4 199.75 209.74 218.13 229.03
5 207.89 218.28 227.01 238.36
6 214.01 224.71 233.70 245.38
7 220.13 231.14 240.38 252.40
8 226.24 237.55 247.05 259.40
9 232.36 243.98 253.74 266.42
10 238.45 250.37 260.39 273.41
11 244.57 256.80 267.08 280.43
12 249.67 262.16 272.64 286.28
FO
Years DOS DOS+1 DOS+2 DOS+3
1 101.56 106.63 110.90 116.44
2 113.65 119.33 124.10 130.31
3 131.66 138.24 143.77 150.96
4 135.81 142.60 148.31 155.72
5 141.36 148.43 154.37 162.08
6 145.51 152.79 158.90 166.85
7 149.70 157.18 163.47 171.64
8 153.84 161.53 167.99 176.39
9 158.01 165.91 172.54 181.17
10 162.15 170.25 177.06 185.92
11 165.39 173.65 180.60 189.63
12 168.70 177.14 184.22 193.43
12-26-2016, 10:25 AM
#107
Line Holder
Joined APC: Aug 2015
Posts: 41
I would say the health care costs went up very significantly. Plus, that is a door that will never get closed again. Health care expenses will now never not go up. This was a huge loss in my opinion.
We also just got the first indication going above guarantee will be difficult going forward. Staying on our lines will be a bad thing for the paycheck. Granted it may take a while for them to get staffing to the point where we actually will stay on our lines, but doing so will be a big pay hit.
We also just got the first indication going above guarantee will be difficult going forward. Staying on our lines will be a bad thing for the paycheck. Granted it may take a while for them to get staffing to the point where we actually will stay on our lines, but doing so will be a big pay hit.
12-26-2016, 11:52 AM
#108
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: 744 CA
Posts: 4,772
And RESERVE...all I have heard for my SIX years at K4... is "why are they taking me off my line..."....Jesus h christ... guys would ***** if they shoved a golden egg up your backside...
And for the record there were still lines with ABOVE guarantee hours to be had. Frankly... Lets have this discussion in 6 months or a year when everything plays out. Don't forget your bid guarantee doesn't include hours for commuting to and from work..nor does it include RSV soft time or most of the DHing you will do. Frankly I think you are probably right..I am guess avg pay will drop to the 70 hour mark or so.. Id be okay with that.
And for the record there were still lines with ABOVE guarantee hours to be had. Frankly... Lets have this discussion in 6 months or a year when everything plays out. Don't forget your bid guarantee doesn't include hours for commuting to and from work..nor does it include RSV soft time or most of the DHing you will do. Frankly I think you are probably right..I am guess avg pay will drop to the 70 hour mark or so.. Id be okay with that.
12-26-2016, 12:18 PM
#109
Line Holder
Joined APC: Aug 2015
Posts: 41
So how do you get significantly above guarantee if you do not get pulled off your line? Can't get that golden egg shoved anywhere unless you are off your line.
There are two reasons to complain about being pulled off your line. One is about the schmuck who had the horsepower to steal your trip, and the other is what you did after. Either if it got you sat for days, or you ended up in a less than pleasant place. I wasn't happy about being pulled from my HNL flights and put on the painful 7 hour sits in SJU, but it got me paid more. Actually it was one of the few times I ever knew what my line really was. Was looking forward to weekends in HNL.
There are two reasons to complain about being pulled off your line. One is about the schmuck who had the horsepower to steal your trip, and the other is what you did after. Either if it got you sat for days, or you ended up in a less than pleasant place. I wasn't happy about being pulled from my HNL flights and put on the painful 7 hour sits in SJU, but it got me paid more. Actually it was one of the few times I ever knew what my line really was. Was looking forward to weekends in HNL.
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