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Old 02-22-2009, 08:06 PM   #21  
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When was the last time you heard of pilots peeing in a water gallon in the cockpit?
Hate to break it to you New B but everyone has done it at least once while in the cockpit. And bad bathrooms? wait until you fly a jet with loaded passengers and a bad lav. Check out an airplane lav sometime, especially after a turbulent flight, aim seems to be a problem. eeeeewwww!
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When I started flight instructing I knew that income wasn't going to be enough. I had a CDL from driving dump trucks during the summer for the family business. I was offered the first job I applied for. I'd be driving a brand new Pete 387 with a 525hp Cat diesel for a mattress factory. They only needed me to work two days a week to cover for the two full time drivers so I could easily schedule my flight instructing around it. I had to unload the mattress at my stops by myself. The customer wouldn't touch them until they were at the end of the trailer. To unload all 120-140 mattresses I'd have to walk 1.25 while carrying a mattress for half that distance. The work was grueling and driving in ND, MN, SD and Manitoba in winter was challenging, but it paid pretty well and I got along well with the factory owners. If I did it full time I would have been making $50,000+ as a 22 year old. Since I already had a college degree and I had invested a decent amount of money in flight training I never considered it as a career.
I've been flying freight for about three years now and I've been exceeding my CDL earning potential for the past 18 months. I don't recommend leaving aviation by choice to become a truck driver, but it's a good fall back plan given the horrible job security of this occupation.

Also, The plane I fly had the lav removed during the freight mod so my trucker powerade bottle skills still come in handy.
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amazed by the response to my off the cuff remark re: truck driver as option to being pilot, thanks guys !
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Hate to break it to you New B but everyone has done it at least once while in the cockpit. And bad bathrooms? wait until you fly a jet with loaded passengers and a bad lav. Check out an airplane lav sometime, especially after a turbulent flight, aim seems to be a problem. eeeeewwww!
A worse than average airplane lav is roughly the same as an average truck stop bathroom, probably better. There are guys out there who are so overweight that they probably can't even see their pee-pee.

But too each their own. My business as an owner-operator cratered pretty badly in the end but it was a lot of fun at times.

Doing fun stuff was the straw that broke the camels back, in the end though.

I used a lot of fuel and time driving around looking for parking spots instead of staying put at the truck stop; then finally my truck got sideswiped by a hit and run driver while parked on the street in an industrial area near Camden Yards in Baltimore causing moderately serious damage; didn't have the cash to fix it and ended up having to sell for next to nothing.

I'm kind of hoping to go back, I probably learned enough to have a good shot at success but right now getting away from various personal commitments to be gone for weeks at a time or just get retrained in a specialized field that I can work locally is tough.
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Hate to break it to you New B but everyone has done it at least once while in the cockpit. And bad bathrooms? wait until you fly a jet with loaded passengers and a bad lav. Check out an airplane lav sometime, especially after a turbulent flight, aim seems to be a problem. eeeeewwww!
Let me rephrase. I obviously flew before as a passenger and I have yet to see one urine jug on an airport taxiway or runway. Next time you are on a rural interstate on/off ramp count how many containers are left about. You see the problem I was referring to isn't so much USING a jug but rather how you dispose of it. This is actually an epidemic in the trucking world. There are other even grosser problems that I won't go into.
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Well at least they keep it in jugs. Wish SOME of the rampers would keep the blue-juice in the tank instead of on the ramp so FO's wouldn't have to walk through/around that hazmat ****.
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Well at least they keep it in jugs. Wish SOME of the rampers would keep the blue-juice in the tank instead of on the ramp so FO's wouldn't have to walk through/around that hazmat ****.

LOL, tell that to the poor chap that has to mow the tall grass along interstates during the summer. With hundreds of "trucker bombs" lurking underneath the blades.
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Let me rephrase. I obviously flew before as a passenger and I have yet to see one urine jug on an airport taxiway or runway. Next time you are on a rural interstate on/off ramp count how many containers are left about. You see the problem I was referring to isn't so much USING a jug but rather how you dispose of it. This is actually an epidemic in the trucking world. There are other even grosser problems that I won't go into.
A lot of pilots just throw the waste out the window. No different from trucking and they literally are "pilot bombs".

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that's disgusting.
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that's disgusting.
Try sitting next to a guy in front office of a learjet as he tries to use his coffee cup.

It only gets worse. Truckers I think would even be grossed out by what pilots do to relieve themselves in flight.

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