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Old 03-18-2017, 02:47 PM
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The sad part is, the real reason why marijuana is illegal in this country is not because of the reasons we've all been brainwashed by since we were little kids. It's because of the strangle hold the big pharma cartels have on our government.
As the holder of a masters in psychology with a behavioral emphasis I'm inclined to agree with you. Spent many practicum hours in "drug use and abuse" including running a rat lab with all those rodents jacked up on something. Funny how Pfizer can synthesize the same indredients that I can get from a plant for free but the retail charge is $1000 or more a month to the parents of a child that's suffering from severe seizures.
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Thanks for posting this, 80.

Sad news, but good for us to hear.
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Don't make me explain addiction to you.
Perhaps you can explain it to me. Being addicted does not relieve one of accountability and responsibility. Neither does Cancer, Aids, Depression or any other mental or physical disease. I may seem very callus but the poster is right.

Here we have an individual who not only ignored his company's self help programs, his children's welfare, and potentially endangered countless crew members, passengers and people on the ground for his "Addiction"?

Sorry, but Spirit did not lose a Good Guy yesterday, they lost a huge potential liability. Good Riddance.
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Originally Posted by AllForTheWookie View Post
Not trying to jump on the bandwagon here but as hard as it may seem if you saw your own brother or someone close to go through an addiction you would not feel the same. With many of these prescription synthetic opiates the doctor has someone on them post surgery before they are in a cognitive state to make that decision. If you are truly interested in more information PM me.
I couldn't disagree with you more. Lost 2 friends in High School to Heroin OD. I found one in his vestibule when I stopped to walk to school with him. I have 2 brothers who are addicts, One other who is an alcoholic. My father was an Alcoholic. Yet I have chosen a different path. My brothers have fortunately, lived long enough to finally curtail their drug usage. One is recovered and one manages fairly well. Sorry, but for educated people, addiction is a choice.

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Once again you are battling with your own demon, self righteousness and egotism, your demons are clouding your own judgment as you pontificate. You are correct, you do not know him, and do not know that this is way out of character for Brian.

Enjoy your life of zero temptations as you live in your bubble
No, you are the one that did not know Brian. Maybe you did but just ignored it because he was such a "good guy"? This is way out of character for him? Are you saying he was murdered and it was made to look like an overdose? If not then perhaps a closer look is warranted by you. If he was such a friend that you feel so compelled to defend him and rationalize his addiction, why did you not seek help for him? If you know him so well as to be able to speak for his character, then perhaps you share a small part in what has happened here
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Originally Posted by maxjet View Post
Perhaps you can explain it to me. Being addicted does not relieve one of accountability and responsibility. Neither does Cancer, Aids, Depression or any other mental or physical disease. I may seem very callus but the poster is right.

Here we have an individual who not only ignored his company's self help programs, his children's welfare, and potentially endangered countless crew members, passengers and people on the ground for his "Addiction"?

Sorry, but Spirit did not lose a Good Guy yesterday, they lost a huge potential liability. Good Riddance.
Do you think it might be a little premature to crucify or judge a man or situation you know nothing about? Do you know he was an addict? Do you know he willingly and intentionally took the drug? Were you aware that his wife's first husband also died of an OD 10 years ago? Let's get the facts before we jump to conclusions.
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYMATTHEW View Post
Do you think it might be a little premature to crucify or judge a man or situation you know nothing about? Do you know he was an addict? Do you know he willingly and intentionally took the drug? Were you aware that his wife's first husband also died of an OD 10 years ago? Let's get the facts before we jump to conclusions.
Why is it that addicts always find each other, and clump together, as if they are particles being pulled together?
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No, you are the one that did not know Brian. Maybe you did but just ignored it because he was such a "good guy"? This is way out of character for him? Are you saying he was murdered and it was made to look like an overdose? If not then perhaps a closer look is warranted by you. If he was such a friend that you feel so compelled to defend him and rationalize his addiction, why did you not seek help for him? If you know him so well as to be able to speak for his character, then perhaps you share a small part in what has happened here
No one really knows the whole story of what happened. So maybe show a little respect for the dead and stop jumping to conclusions. But you're right, he may have been an addict with a serious problem. But maybe it was his first time doing something like this, just a one time bad decision after a few too many drinks with his wife... Maybe his wife gave him something and he didn't know what he was taking. There are plenty of possibilities but just because this guy OD'd doesn't necessarily mean he was an addict.

Also addiction isn't as black and white as you and some others make it out to be. No one wakes up one day thinking they want to become an addict or think that by taking a pill that they are going to end up dealing with a full blown addiction. Usually people that wander down these paths have other serious issues that they are dealing with. I'm not saying that addicts haven't made mistakes and bear no blame but have a little compassion.

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Originally Posted by TrojanCMH View Post
No one really knows the whole story of what happened. So maybe show a little respect for the dead and stop jumping to conclusions. But you're right, he may have been an full on addict with a serious problem. But maybe it was his first time doing something like this, just a one time bad decision after a few too many drinks with his wife... Maybe his wife gave him something and he didn't know what he was taking. There are plenty of possibilities but just because this guy OD'd doesn't necessarily mean he was an addict.

Also addiction isn't as black and white as you and some others make it out to be. No one wakes up one day thinking they want to become an addict or think that by taking a pill that they are going to end up dealing with a full blown addiction. Usually people that wander down these paths have other serious issues that they are dealing with. I'm not saying that addicts haven't made mistakes and bear no blame but have a little compassion.


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Originally Posted by maxjet View Post
Perhaps you can explain it to me. Being addicted does not relieve one of accountability and responsibility. Neither does Cancer, Aids, Depression or any other mental or physical disease. I may seem very callus but the poster is right.

Here we have an individual who not only ignored his company's self help programs, his children's welfare, and potentially endangered countless crew members, passengers and people on the ground for his "Addiction"?

Sorry, but Spirit did not lose a Good Guy yesterday, they lost a huge potential liability. Good Riddance.
Wow. You're a world class a-hole who by their own admission doesn't understand the problem of opiate addiction. For someone with such a self proclaimed education in following comments you sure haven't learned a gdamn thing on the subject. You allow your own self righteousness to cloud your perception. You should probably just shut up. Seriously, don't comment again.
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