Spirit lost a good guy yesterday
03-17-2017, 10:29 AM
#21
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Originally Posted by Poppachubby
I don't know how that would change anything. This could be my own brother and I'd still feel the same. This may sound a little simplistic, yet serious question: if you simply refuse to"partake", how will you ever get this "addiction" disease? Listen, my intent is not to trash this guy. Maybe it's a little "to soon". I didn't know the guy but I'm sure he was a good dude. I probably could work on my understanding a little better yet matters that involve kids are very sensitive to me. The idea of two parents shooting up in the bedroom with kids outside is just to unbelievable to comprehend.
May they rest in peace.
May they rest in peace.
03-17-2017, 11:38 AM
#22
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Originally Posted by Pinchacabron
Once again you are battling with your own demon, self righteousness and egotism, your demons are clouding your own judgment as you pontificate. You are correct, you do not know him, and do not know that this is way out of character for Brian.
Enjoy your life of zero temptations as you live in your bubble
Enjoy your life of zero temptations as you live in your bubble
Zero temptations? Hardly. Right now I'm fighting the temptation to start drinking green beer early! Anyway, I'm done. Again, sorry for your loss.
03-17-2017, 12:05 PM
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"It probably is to soon to discuss the dark side of this." We don't even know what happened. It saddens me to see how many of my peers are so judgemental and holier than thou. Any time that something happens the judgemental internet vultures jump all over it assuming they know what happened from the first batch of newspaper articles. It is a sad character trait that seems to run deep in the pilot profession. Give the guy, his friends, and his family a break and don't crucify him online until you know all facts. Get some class.
03-17-2017, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by beech_nut
"It probably is to soon to discuss the dark side of this." We don't even know what happened. It saddens me to see how many of my peers are so judgemental and holier than thou. Any time that something happens the judgemental internet vultures jump all over it assuming they know what happened from the first batch of newspaper articles. It is a sad character trait that seems to run deep in the pilot profession. Give the guy, his friends, and his family a break and don't crucify him online until you know all facts. Get some class.
03-17-2017, 12:20 PM
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This is a tragedy. It can be filed under never should have happened. Untreated addiction ends 1 of 3 ways. Jails, institutions and death. For those that knew Brian, this should be a memorial to him. Not a forum for holier than thou ignorant d-bags to crap on a horrific situation.
03-17-2017, 12:50 PM
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At a conference recently, its estimated approx 15% of the population is addicted to synthetic opiods. Random testing will begin soon for the synthetics. If you think it can't happen to you, or someone you know.... check out Dr Kevin McCauley former marine corps flt surgeon. Gives a very powerful presentation and what happened to him.
03-17-2017, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Poppachubby
This may sound a little simplistic, yet serious question: if you simply refuse to"partake", how will you ever get this "addiction" disease?
My biggest fear was becoming addicted to the pain medication that I knew I was going to be prescribed. I was in constant pain for a week straight yet terrified of these pills. I took them, (I had to,) but even at the height of my pain I did not always take the max allowed amount. That's how scared I was.
And that's how many an addiction gets started.
So referencing the above quote, While I do believe that "Just say no" is a good start, there's more to it that that.
03-17-2017, 02:56 PM
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As a parent it is very hard for me to understand taking that first step into the abyss, and this is with multiple friends and family members working this epidemic first hand. (Rehab nurses, ER docs, Para/EMTs).
God Bless and prayers to the family and especially those poor kids.
God Bless and prayers to the family and especially those poor kids.
03-17-2017, 03:00 PM
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I met one of Brian's kids on one of my first trips after OE. Nice young man, I hope Brian was up to speed on his insurance and the company / ALPA does right by them regardless of the circumstances.
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