Say again? I speak 'murican not your poofy pig latin.

 

For what it's worth, I've NEVER flown/jumpseated with someone making any of the 121.5 "comments" or "sounds" at the regional, LCC, or Legacy level. Obviously, it's a daily occurrence. Florida is almost always silent. I agree with the previous post that once you get up in the ATL area, it starts to kick off and once in the northeast corridor, all bets are off, it's continuous. I assume it's *mostly* regional guys just based off of the locations where it is and ISN'T happening. This should be crossposted in the "Regional" forum. I don't see anything wrong with a quick "you're on 121.5" if it's the 3rd mistaken transmission or so to help the other person out, especially if it's a GA guy making traffic calls, but the back and forth play and even the guys that try to lecture on the frequency is definitely getting old.

 

Are we still beating our heads against this wall? Really? Does your #2 comm radio not have a volume control?

Much like monsters under the bed and the boogeyman, guard trolls will go away if you ignore them.

 

I'm not sure you get it. If you think the regional guys are the problem (never saw anyone screwing off on guard during my 10 years flying RJs fwiw) then acknowledging them and letting them know you're annoyed plays right into their hands. A guard troll, in his (they're ALWAYS male) natural habitat wants nothing more than to know that "grandpa" up there in his fancy "mainline jet" is a little peeved! When you respond or scold you do nothing but get your blood pressure up and give them a sad little thrill. So I say again: turn the volume down for a bit and ignore. Problem fixes itself.

Final thought: if you really wanna get meta about it, it could be argued that these threads about guard trolls are just another form of guard trolling...

 

The point is you knowingly left out legacy carriers because, well obviously, they are so much better and more mature. If it isn't RJ drivers than it must be the LCC's and ULCC's. The childish and self-righteous part is pointing the finger elsewhere. I'm sure every airline has some...even Frontier, though with Frontier it is probably a very small percentage as the pilot would have to actively make that decision and not be baited by the passive monitoring. A lot of pilots were RJ drivers before they moved up, and several are "stuck" in that position due to industry changes that were outside their control, combined with their current age. Its not the airplane, its not the airline, its the pilot.

My feelers are just fine, thanks for thinking of them though.

 

I agree but an "adios" is absolutely not correct!

 

Not condoning it, but to the OP and anyone else bent out of shape about this- I suspect most of the people that are mad about guard shenanigans are people who are getting paid a fair wage to sit in their seat. Have a little forethought that, most likely, the people f ing around on guard are the people who are NOT being paid a fair wage to be doing the exact same thing you're doing for 1/3-1/4 the paycheck. Most likely regional pilots and ULCC pilots who are flying the exact same plane you're flying for 1/2 or 1/3 the pay that you're getting. Not saying it's professional or ok, but I can understand it. There are guys getting paid 36/hr to be an FO on a A321, that guy can do whatever the ******* he wants as long as it's safe, as far as I'm concerned. You're wasting your breath on this, go volunteer at ALPA to help get equal pay for your pilot brethren and the guard chatter would disappear on its own

 

I never made stupid comments on guard when I was making $19 an hour

 

+1 million, Spaaks, who cares about guard shenanigans. It's annoying but we have bigger fish to fry collectively.

 

And how long ago was that? Accounting for inflation? Almost all regional fo's make under 60/hr which is mcdonalds wages. You pay mcdonalds wages, you get mcdonalds quality. Most pilots act as professionally as the company treats them. The sim instructors/check airman, they make 150k+ a year at regionals and they act professional. The company tells the fo's, you're only worth30-40k/yr so that's all the effort I'm going to put in. Same with frontier and other poorly paid ulcc lcc's for example. Most guys take pay cuts to go from flying a 50 seat rj to flying a 220 seat Airbus 321. What do you think that says to the pilot about how the company sees them. If you pay them and treat them like the professional they are, they will act like it. If you pay them like a professional, you can FORCE them to act like a professional. If you don't pay them and treat them like a professional, you can only HOPE they act like a professional because you need them more than they need you (which is where we are in the industry today).