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vroll1800 04-11-2018 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by AZFlyer (Post 2569874)
I think that was in 1966...

Grammar/reading comprehension Nazi time.

1) Read 2nd sentence, 2nd paragraph in my quote which begins "In 1990 I sat at 2am with a fellow FE..."
2) In 1966, fellow FE had 3 job offers from Delta, American, and Braniff. (Dang, I wasn't quick enough to edit original BNF spelling error.)

Ar Pilot 04-11-2018 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by propbandit (Post 2569503)
Thread bump.

I have found myself in the same position as the OP. AA vs DAL.

I am a commuter to both airlines as I will not be moving to a domicile.

Can someone give any insight into where seniority numbers lie for each airline, specifically:

1. Junior WB FO

2. Junior NB CA 737/A320/1 (I'd prefer to exclude the 190/MD-80/88 since they're going away for both airlines)

3. Junior WB CA

Thanks in advance.


Delta. 14,6xx pilots on the list.

1. 11,8xx DTW 330

2. 11,9xx NYC 320

3. 2,7xx A330 NYC

Laker24 04-11-2018 07:03 PM

American-

Looks like 14,981 is the junior FO (190PHL).

1)PHL 330FO 11,9XX. LGA 777FO 11,7XX
2)LGA 737 CA 11,084
3)LGA/MIA 777 CA +- 3,000

propbandit 04-11-2018 07:32 PM


Originally Posted by Ar Pilot (Post 2570207)
Delta. 14,6xx pilots on the list.

1. 11,8xx DTW 330

2. 11,9xx NYC 320

3. 2,7xx A330 NYC


Originally Posted by Laker24 (Post 2570339)
American-

Looks like 14,981 is the junior FO (190PHL).

1)PHL 330FO 11,9XX. LGA 777FO 11,7XX
2)LGA 737 CA 11,084
3)LGA/MIA 777 CA +- 3,000

Ar/Laker, thank you, much appreciated.

bull 04-12-2018 04:04 AM


Originally Posted by propbandit (Post 2569503)
Thread bump.

I have found myself in the same position as the OP. AA vs DAL.

I am a commuter to both airlines as I will not be moving to a domicile.

Can someone give any insight into where seniority numbers lie for each airline, specifically:

1. Junior WB FO

2. Junior NB CA 737/A320/1 (I'd prefer to exclude the 190/MD-80/88 since they're going away for both airlines)

3. Junior WB CA

Thanks in advance.

Based on Delta hiring 4000+ over the last 4 years, I would think AA would offer you better movement. However, if you are going to be a career commuter, I would also look at commutes from where you live. Delta allows you to book a Jumpseat 6 days prior going to work and 4 days prior going home. To me, knowing I have a seat to work that far in advance is a huge QOL boost for me, versus worrying if I’m going to be the first one to the gate to list.

aa73 04-12-2018 06:41 AM

^^ so does American. We also can book the j/s 7 days out.

Slowmover 04-12-2018 06:54 AM

New guy here trying to learn...

A recent post in the AA section recommended that if you're interested in international flying then you should try to get to Delta or United vs. American. However, these numbers seem to show that's not the case. Seniority numbers for AA and Delta are about the same for wide body FO and CA, but projected turnover at AA means you'd get there faster at AA than at Delta.

In any case, it looks to me like a new hire at AA could be a wide body FO in 3-4 years or a narrow body CA at 4-5 years. Widebody CA is of course harder to predict but it seems to me that a new guy could be getting close in 15 years or so.

Am I interpreting that right?

bull 04-12-2018 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by aa73 (Post 2570598)
^^ so does American. We also can book the j/s 7 days out.

Thanks...I was not aware...these being equal, I’d probably go AA based on retirements, Deltas 4000+ new hires, and more widebody/international flying.

Laker24 04-12-2018 07:56 AM

I’m sure delta has something similar but AA has a great commuter policy. You don’t need a backup flight and your commute does not have to be on company metal. If you miss your flight you simply call scheduling and they take you off the trip.

PilotJ3 04-12-2018 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by Laker24 (Post 2570686)
I’m sure delta has something similar but AA has a great commuter policy. You don’t need a backup flight and your commute does not have to be on company metal. If you miss your flight you simply call scheduling and they take you off the trip.

2 flights at Delta. The second one has to be on DAL or DeltaConnection, you’ll get positive space on it.


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