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propbandit 04-03-2018 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by stlmikey (Post 2539623)
I got extremely lucky and recently got a CJO with Delta & American, one week apart. I never thought I'd be in this position to have the option but need to make a decision soon. I will likely be commuting from STL, which neither airline has a crew base, so that's not much of a factor at the moment. Main deciding factors are QOL / days off, commutability, and employee morale. Any advice or opinions are very much appreciated.

So have you made a decision yet?

Laker24 04-03-2018 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by Sniper66 (Post 2557807)
Delta hands down

If it was me I would go AA. Delta has been hiring a massive amount of pilots over the last 4 years. AA is just starting to ramp up. Over 7,000 retirements in the next 10 years at AA.

stlmikey 04-04-2018 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by propbandit (Post 2564388)
So have you made a decision yet?

Yes, I went with AA. It was a really tough call to make but for my long term plans AA's bases and number of retirements played a big factor. I'm optimistic the contract differences will average out over the years and know that either airline is going to be a great place to work. I really do appreciate everyone's input in this thread.

qball 04-04-2018 08:06 AM


Originally Posted by stlmikey (Post 2564769)
Yes, I went with AA. It was a really tough call to make but for my long term plans AA's bases and number of retirements played a big factor. I'm optimistic the contract differences will average out over the years and know that either airline is going to be a great place to work. I really do appreciate everyone's input in this thread.

Congratulations......

sherpster 04-04-2018 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by stlmikey (Post 2564769)
Yes, I went with AA. It was a really tough call to make but for my long term plans AA's bases and number of retirements played a big factor. I'm optimistic the contract differences will average out over the years and know that either airline is going to be a great place to work. I really do appreciate everyone's input in this thread.

Good decision

at6d 04-04-2018 03:49 PM

Congrats.

Wind check?

propbandit 04-10-2018 06:51 PM

Thread bump.

I have found myself in the same position as the OP. AA vs DAL.

I am a commuter to both airlines as I will not be moving to a domicile.

Can someone give any insight into where seniority numbers lie for each airline, specifically:

1. Junior WB FO

2. Junior NB CA 737/A320/1 (I'd prefer to exclude the 190/MD-80/88 since they're going away for both airlines)

3. Junior WB CA

Thanks in advance.

Dolphinflyer 04-10-2018 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by propbandit (Post 2569503)
Thread bump.

I have found myself in the same position as the OP. AA vs DAL.

I am a commuter to both airlines as I will not be moving to a domicile.

Can someone give any insight into where seniority numbers lie for each airline, specifically:

1. Junior WB FO

2. Junior NB CA 737/A320/1 (I'd prefer to exclude the 190/MD-80/88 since they're going away for both airlines)

3. Junior WB CA

Thanks in advance.

As an AA guy, there are a lot of "if's" with that request. We haven't hit the massive movement for retirements yet, but even in the last bid run, it looks like it's happening. Widebody CA was stagnant forever, and then "boom" it moves 500+ numbers junior in 1 bid. WB FO? Again, a lot of stuff hitting now. Former USAir CLT and PHL CA slots are senior as ####. When that hits along with the 787 replacement, it tends to drive stuff real junior. There is another dynamic. IF the CA job ends up going real junior, does it suck or is the FO job that good? Could be a premium/green slip pay issue or a suck CA reserve job.

Wish I had the crystal ball. Trying to pick the right horse is a choice with some risk. In 1990 I sat at 2am with a fellow FE newhire who was junior to me and 30 years older. Shaking his head, he said, "Yup, 1966, I had 3 job offers, Delta, American and Branniff".

If there was a APC message board in 1990, 98.5% of the posts would have told me to ditch UPS go to AA.

Good luck with your choice. Not sure how I would I handle a 200# at Brown vs my current number equal to the GDP of 1/2 the worlds nations. :D

vroll1800 04-11-2018 06:03 AM


Originally Posted by Dolphinflyer (Post 2569529)
As an AA guy, there are a lot of "if's" with that request. ///>>>

Wish I had the crystal ball. Trying to pick the right horse is a choice with some risk. In 1990 I sat at 2am with a fellow FE newhire who was junior to me and 30 years older. Shaking his head, he said, "Yup, 1966, I had 3 job offers, Delta, American and Branniff".

If there was a APC message board in 1990, 98.5% of the posts would have told me to ditch UPS go to AA.

Good luck with your choice. Not sure how I would I handle a 200# at Brown vs my current number equal to the GDP of 1/2 the worlds nations. :D

1) Why did 1990 classmate pick Branniff ?
2) Was this 1990 class UPS or AAL ? (AAL actually hired a 55 plus guy?)

3) Not sure if you went to UPS first, then left for AAL, or if you had simultaneous offers from both. Either way, I think you'd handle having a low 3 digit number at UPS quite well. I also recognize that not everyone is willing to wade through the horse manure for the possibility of green grass either.

AZFlyer 04-11-2018 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by vroll1800 (Post 2569720)
1) Why did 1990 classmate pick Branniff ?

I think that was in 1966...


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