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Old 06-10-2018, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by echelon View Post
You're pulling air yourself? Why not pull power yourself too, or maybe go ahead and hook up the tow bar or load some bags?



Thanks but I'll continue doing MY job, and ONLY MY job.


Hitting the button to turn it off isn't "pulling air".
I've gone down and shut it off plenty of times but I'd never consider physically disconnecting it from the airplane.


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Old 06-12-2018, 01:42 PM
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Hitting the button to turn it off isn't "pulling air".
I've gone down and shut it off plenty of times but I'd never consider physically disconnecting it from the airplane.


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I do my job and my job only. If you delay boarding for bad air I bet they will be quicker next time around.
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Old 06-12-2018, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by hilltopflyer View Post
I do my job and my job only. If you delay boarding for bad air I bet they will be quicker next time around.
This guy gets it.
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Old 06-12-2018, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by labbats View Post
This guy gets it.
Some of you guys really over complicate this job. If I get on a plane with the APU off and ground air pumping so so air I'll let the walk around get done without all the noise. I tell the FO to push the red button on his way up and I start the apu to enjoy ice cold a/c. I don't do other people's jobs either but I'll push a button if it keeps me from waiting 15 minutes for ground personnel to do it.

I'm that guy that is one of the first people off the plane and when you get on it the air is cold and your head set is plugged it. Your welcome.

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Old 06-12-2018, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by captjns View Post
Every carriers I’ve worked with prohibit leaving the aircraft unattended, with the APU running, unless maintanance is present at the aircraft or a crewmember is in the cockpit.
Can do it at United.
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Old 06-12-2018, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by CousinEddie View Post
Unless you and the ramp crew have a written, approved procedure for doing this, you are putting the risk squarely on your shoulders. The cargo doors are all closed up as you are boarding, then the late bags show up from the other side of the airport. They drive right behind your idling engine and someone gets hurt. Who are they going to blame? Ridiculous, I know. But there is a risk to going off-script. If something goes wrong, you are the fall guy.
If the APU is INOP, and you need a huffer for start, my experience it will also run the packs before start. So just have them connect and run it early to cool the aircraft.
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Old 06-12-2018, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by flensr View Post
A320 has an issue with valves chattering if the APU is running the packs while there is external conditioned air plugged in, so don't expect 320s to have the APU running the packs while external air is plugged in. Getting ground to unplug it can take quite a bit of time.

737 may not have that issue but I've been told it's "not good" to have the packs running while external air is plugged in, and it seems like some crews won't turn on the APU bleed and packs until after external air is disconnected. Again, that can take quite a while at some stations.

Yea, excuses, whatever. The CAs I've been flying with have been perfectly happy to turn on the APU and packs at the first word or hint that it's getting warm in back and I've done it a couple times myself when the CA wasn't around to confirm first.

Finally, yea. If there is a crew swap, the APU gets shut down until the next crew gets on the plane. One can only hope the incoming crew checks cabin temps when they arrive to see if they need the APU back on immediately.
I don't wait, I go outside and shut the air off. Spank me.
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Old 06-12-2018, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by echelon View Post
You're pulling air yourself? Why not pull power yourself too, or maybe go ahead and hook up the tow bar or load some bags?

Thanks but I'll continue doing MY job, and ONLY MY job.
Doing your job is to keep crew and PAX comfortable.
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Old 06-12-2018, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by labbats View Post
This guy gets it.
No he doesn't. At least at my airline for over 20 years. Call as many times as you want, the air usually gets pulled right before pushback.
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Old 06-12-2018, 07:24 PM
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I've come on aircraft after everyone has been boarded and it is hot. (late connection). I always ask the FAs why they allowed boarding under these conditions.
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