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06-12-2018, 09:02 PM
#51
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Originally Posted by Glenntilton
If the APU is INOP, and you need a huffer for start, my experience it will also run the packs before start. So just have them connect and run it early to cool the aircraft.
06-13-2018, 04:59 AM
#52
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Position: B-737NG preferably in first class with a glass of champagne and caviar
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Originally Posted by Baradium
I had someone in a recurrent class a number of years ago who got CO poisoning from a bad huffer running packs.
06-13-2018, 08:31 AM
#53
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Originally Posted by Glenntilton
No he doesn't. At least at my airline for over 20 years. Call as many times as you want, the air usually gets pulled right before pushback.
06-13-2018, 08:50 AM
#54
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Position: B-737NG preferably in first class with a glass of champagne and caviar
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Originally Posted by hilltopflyer
So you deplane everyone till they get good air. If they can't go turn it off. Hurt the operation and it changes.
The company(ies) I fly for entrusted me with the keys to the jet. I guess they trust my judgment
Conditioned Air versus APU? More important things to worry about... “Where’s my coffee with half & half (light cream overseas)?”My previous post is obvious to the casual observer. The purpose of a huffer, is to provide air for starting the engine(s), and not to run the PACKS. Manuals from different airlines from different countries describe potential hazards due to fumes entering the cabin via the ACS.
I have, and and will continue, provided there’s no conditioned air cart at the jet, leave the APU running with air on. I/A/W SOPs, with the APU running, myself or the F/O will remain on the jet.
If we arrive at a heat soaked jet with no conditioned air, after the fire check... APU on PACKs on, coffee maker on the line
. By the way the same applies for a cold soaked jet.
Last edited by captjns; 06-13-2018 at 09:13 AM.
06-13-2018, 09:37 AM
#55
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Originally Posted by captjns
I don’t understand your comment... clarify your statements.
The company(ies) I fly for entrusted me with the keys to the jet. I guess they trust my judgment Conditioned Air versus APU? More important things to worry about... “Where’s my coffee with half & half (light cream overseas)?”
My previous post is obvious to the casual observer. The purpose of a huffer, is to provide air for starting the engine(s), and not to run the PACKS. Manuals from different airlines from different countries describe potential hazards due to fumes entering the cabin via the ACS.
I have, and and will continue, provided there’s no conditioned air cart at the jet, leave the APU running with air on. I/A/W SOPs, with the APU running, myself or the F/O will remain on the jet.
If we arrive at a heat soaked jet with no conditioned air, after the fire check... APU on PACKs on, coffee maker on the line.
By the way the same applies for a cold soaked jet.
The company(ies) I fly for entrusted me with the keys to the jet. I guess they trust my judgment
Conditioned Air versus APU? More important things to worry about... “Where’s my coffee with half & half (light cream overseas)?”My previous post is obvious to the casual observer. The purpose of a huffer, is to provide air for starting the engine(s), and not to run the PACKS. Manuals from different airlines from different countries describe potential hazards due to fumes entering the cabin via the ACS.
I have, and and will continue, provided there’s no conditioned air cart at the jet, leave the APU running with air on. I/A/W SOPs, with the APU running, myself or the F/O will remain on the jet.
If we arrive at a heat soaked jet with no conditioned air, after the fire check... APU on PACKs on, coffee maker on the line
. By the way the same applies for a cold soaked jet.
Extra points deduction for your incessant douchiness of using "the jet" somewhere in every one of your posts (that I see).
06-13-2018, 11:04 AM
#56
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Originally Posted by V1 McFlyerson
Extra points deduction for your incessant douchiness of using "the jet" somewhere in every one of your posts (that I see).
06-13-2018, 12:41 PM
#57
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Originally Posted by V1 McFlyerson
Extra points deduction for your incessant douchiness of using "the jet" somewhere in every one of your posts (that I see).
06-13-2018, 02:37 PM
#58
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Originally Posted by captjns
Every carriers I’ve worked with prohibit leaving the aircraft unattended, with the APU running, unless maintanance is present at the aircraft or a crewmember is in the cockpit.
Manuals within the manual system of Carriers I worked with restricted huffers solely for the use of strarting for the reasons, including the above.
06-14-2018, 02:16 PM
#60
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Originally Posted by V1 McFlyerson
Extra points deduction for your incessant douchiness of using "the jet" somewhere in every one of your posts (that I see).
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