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Old 07-29-2018, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Floobs View Post
There are no shortage of captains out there that shy away from throwing their title around. Especially at Delta.
Are you on drugs? Do you have a clue about what actually happened?
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Old 07-29-2018, 10:20 AM
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The captain was wrong for not letting/making the ground staff handle this.
The clock doesn't start until the plane moves or door is closed, so he was working for free.
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Old 07-29-2018, 10:26 AM
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The captain was wrong for not letting/making the ground staff handle this.
The clock doesn't start until the plane moves or door is closed, so he was working for free.
The Captain is the final authority on if a passengers rides. He is required at Delta to be involved. That is why they are paid 9 or 10 times what a gate agent gets paid. If your flight attendants tell you they have a disruptive passenger who is not following instructions and your answer is I will not get involved your working relationship with the crew is non existent. The gate agent is however going to show up at the cockpit where you are hiding and ask if you want the passenger to remain on board or be removed. What are you going to base your answer on after hiding?
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Old 07-29-2018, 10:27 AM
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"Just another black person making a scene, and acting like they deserve special treatment, then becoming self righteously indignant after being called out for it"

Fixed the title of that article for you
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Old 07-29-2018, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun View Post
The Captain is the final authority on if a passengers rides. He is required at Delta to be involved. That is why they are paid 9 or 10 times what a gate agent gets paid. If your flight attendants tell you they have a disruptive passenger who is not following instructions and your answer is I will not get involved your working relationship with the crew is non existent. The gate agent is however going to show up at the cockpit where you are hiding and ask if you want the passenger to remain on board or be removed. What are you going to base your answer on after hiding?
No he is required to call for a red coat to deal with disruptive passengers. Getting involved is NOT his job at Delta
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Old 07-29-2018, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by CrispyBacon View Post
"Just another black person making a scene, and acting like they deserve special treatment, then becoming self righteously indignant after being called out for it"

Fixed the title of that article for you
So true. EVERY thing is about race now a days. I doubt the captain at Delta airlines of all places would make it a point to single someone out just because they were being black. If said individual just behaved like a civilized human being I doubt the captain woulda said anything.
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Old 07-29-2018, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Floobs View Post
Tamar Braxton Gets ?Ridiculed By A Pilot For Flying While Black On Delta,? According To Video Posted By Her Sister Towanda | Celebrity Insider

Why oh why are we still going In the back to talk to disruptive passangers? Stay in the flight deck and to leave. Call someone who is trained to handle it.
Never have done that. Never will.

Didn’t do it before cellphone cams, certainly not about to start now.
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Old 07-29-2018, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by 67Creek View Post
Without the context of the interaction, anyone that's asserting the captain was in the right, or in the wrong, is doing so ignorantly.
That’s a very important point .

These clips are always posted without context. There is no way this ever comes out good for the crew.

Our airline tells us to get someone trained to deal with the situation. I would imagine his does too. Bet capt gets to do a little carpet dance.

Captain’s authority doesn’t mean the authority to be a dumbass.
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Old 07-29-2018, 11:01 AM
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Just another entitled millennial gibbs me dat looking for a payday and 15 minutes of fame.
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Old 07-29-2018, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun View Post
The Captain is the final authority on if a passengers rides. He is required at Delta to be involved. That is why they are paid 9 or 10 times what a gate agent gets paid. If your flight attendants tell you they have a disruptive passenger who is not following instructions and your answer is I will not get involved your working relationship with the crew is non existent. The gate agent is however going to show up at the cockpit where you are hiding and ask if you want the passenger to remain on board or be removed. What are you going to base your answer on after hiding?
True to some extent.

1. Get story from flight attendant
2. Assuming the flight attendant isn’t on a power trip and inflaming an otherwise benign situation, call ops for a supervisor to remove a pax on behalf of the pic.
3. Ops confirms seat number or supervisor pokes head in Flight deck to confirm when they arrive.
4. Supervisor removes pax while you continue your preflight duties
5. If pax refuses to leave then supervisor calls LE or pokes in again and asks if you’ll call for them.

At no point do you need to engage the pax.

If during step one if you are 99% sure from hearing the FAs story that it’s probably the FA that is the problem you can try to diffuse them in the Flight deck. If they don’t yield speak to another FA and get a second account. If it corroborates the story from the fist FA then proceed with step 2. If the story from the second FA does not match the first then try to diffuse the first one again. If they do not then offer for them to be replaced. Only go down that road if you are absolutely sure the FA is probably the problem. Otherwise take their word for it and have the pax removed. There is no point where this requires engaging the pax
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