CincoDeMayo

How about JetBlue where you can wear a dress to work?

Now that’s fun!! And WOKE

CRJJ

And a JOKE too, geez!

C17man

Working through this problem now. Still unsure.

ZeroTT

it’s unknowable. Live in base and move on

NeverFlexTO

while I mostly agree with your outlook, I never take into account where the airline stands today and how there contracts are. All Legacies are in some sort of section 6 negotiation and it’s going to change a lot in the next year to two years. I’d also Advocate that Delta just shed almost 2000 pilots offering the early out package. Delta is in the process of replacing those pilots and getting the airline back to pre-Covid staffing levels which is great for anybody who gets hired in the next six months. Delta traditionally grows on average between 2 to 3% per year in their ranks. The forecast pre-Covid was to go to a 16,000 pilot airline, as fleet standardization continues and demand increases I think that number is quite possible in the next 3 to 5 years. I would be looking to get on the front side of that instead of worrying about minor differences in contracts. The other option I’d be looking at for potential employment is geographical location to current living situation. I believe that trumps all.

i’ll also add that as it stands today Delta Airlines market cap is $26 billion whereas United is 15.5 for roughly the same stock price. So to say that their financials are similar would not be necessarily true. Delta is a much better run airline from a financial perspective.

Cougs

I’d love to hear your thoughts… Delta was my #1 choice, but by the time they called, I was wrapping up training at United. I’ve got a Delta interview scheduled for a month from now, but I’m not sure what I should do. Frankly, I’ve been really impressed by United thus far. For my family, the domiciles are a push - no preference either way, so it really comes down to pay, opportunities, stability, etc.

United has more WB flying (a hell of a lot more. I could hold 787/777 FO in multiple bases as a brand new guy). They seem to be aggressively trying to capture market, grow, and fix their culture and I was impressed by what I saw during training. Their strikes are poor reserve rules, financial stability, and lower profit sharing.
Delta has a better reputation and financials, much better reserve rules, and healthy profit sharing. What they don’t have is nearly the WB fleet/opportunities, or the pilot seniority that I’ll enjoy at United. I should also mention that because United called so early and their biggest retirement numbers are in the future, I’ll always have about a 1000 seniority advantage at United over Delta (according to the retirement charts).

It’s a good problem to have, but I want to make the decision with eyes wide open and try to get it right. I’d be interested in thoughts from guys with major experience, because I have none!

at6d

Interview. Go from there!

Tini

For anyone who is agnostic about domiciles, United is clearly the better option in my personal opinion.

Gone Flying

United. There are many good things at Delta, but if you are already at United and don’t have a reason to leave (like domicile) I would not. UA seems to have a ton of potential, a large and growing WB fleet with all the opportunities that brings, and like you said retirement numbers favor them over DL.

BlueSkies

Seniority is everything as they say. I'd do the interview if you are really curious, but with the retirements at UAL vs DAL it's a hard sell to recommend leaving UAL.

Famous last words, but with the movement coming up you probably won't have to sit much RSV (assuming you don't continually bid senior airplanes). So the RSV rules sucking at UAL might not matter much. Profit sharing is great at DAL, but with the increased seniority at UAL you could 'buy' better skeds, premium pay, sooner upgrade, etc.

I'm at DAL btw.