attendance/reliability program
02-11-2019 | 07:06 AM
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Bingo. It’s the FAA that puts the burden on me to decide fitness for flight. It’s an earned benefit as previously stated and quite frankly none of the company's damn business on why I was unfit to fly. Getting in a fight with your wife, worrying about a child’s situation, death of a family member or friend, etc., could all be reasons why I’m not fit to sign the release that day. NONE OF THE COMPANY’S BUSINESS.
02-11-2019 | 07:44 AM
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Another thing about HIPPA laws, if your CBA allows your company to request a note explaining your illness “in general terms” then HIPPA laws don’t apply.
02-11-2019 | 09:01 AM
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02-11-2019 | 10:54 AM
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Bingo. It’s the FAA that puts the burden on me to decide fitness for flight. It’s an earned benefit as previously stated and quite frankly none of the company's damn business on why I was unfit to fly. Getting in a fight with your wife, worrying about a child’s situation, death of a family member or friend, etc., could all be reasons why I’m not fit to sign the release that day. NONE OF THE COMPANY’S BUSINESS.
02-11-2019 | 11:55 AM
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See I really don't mind the notes. If I am sick I always go to the doctor and always get a note just in case. What I mind is when they say the call counts as an occurrence regardless of nature and you start getting phone calls from management and/ or disciplinary hearing once you accrue so many occurrences/points and warning letters are placed in your file.
02-11-2019 | 01:38 PM
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It's a necessary evil. These airlines are trying to run a business and the few people that have abused it in the past are the reason we have the sick policies. Banging out more than 5 times a year for legitimately being sick isn't common for somebody healthy but it can happen. Keep some documentation in that rare situation and you'll be fine.
02-11-2019 | 02:09 PM
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I'm sure ALPA legal could address this better but if my company were making me fear for my job if I didn't fly sick I would make dam sure I ASAP'd it. Something like, "I didn't feel that I was at my best to fly but felt that my job, the welfare of my family, was in jeopardy if I didn't."
It would have to be worded carefully but I'm sure there's a way that it could be worded.
I'd do that every time that I had a sniffle; the FAA sees everyone ASAP, fatigue report, etc that is filed and I bet they would not want it to get out that companies were coercing pilots to fly unfit.
It would have to be worded carefully but I'm sure there's a way that it could be worded.
I'd do that every time that I had a sniffle; the FAA sees everyone ASAP, fatigue report, etc that is filed and I bet they would not want it to get out that companies were coercing pilots to fly unfit.
02-11-2019 | 02:19 PM
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I don’t know if there’s any “magic” number above which sick calls should automatically be labeled as abusive. Pilots tend to be relatively healthy, but we are literally locked in a metal tube, breathing recycled air with hundreds of other people of unknown health status for a vast majority of our working hours.
02-11-2019 | 06:17 PM
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I did. You don’t have one. And loss of personal privacy and freedom as a condition of flying even as a passenger is a given for every person we fly and for those crew randomly selected as the sacrificial animals for known crew member. And for crew members who get hit with random (or directed) DOT drug checks.
Inappropriate or fraudulent use of sick leave by crew members is a valid concern for both the union and management, while concealment of medical problems is a concern to the FAA and general public. If we aren’t willing to address these problems on a cooperative basis, ultimately they will be addressed on a dogmatic one.
Inappropriate or fraudulent use of sick leave by crew members is a valid concern for both the union and management, while concealment of medical problems is a concern to the FAA and general public. If we aren’t willing to address these problems on a cooperative basis, ultimately they will be addressed on a dogmatic one.
02-11-2019 | 09:30 PM
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Serves them right. If they can't trust me to be a good judgement on my own well being then they shouldn't trust behind the controls of the a/c.
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