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09-04-2022, 02:46 PM

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gearup1006

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Originally Posted by Tangalanga

Thank you very much for using your time on that answer, very good and useful information Ffffff, seams to be a lot of positive things. Now starts the dilemma, what is better, be senior in a new and small company, with the pros and cons of that, or choose the standard way, Legacy, staff number 14000 or more and not a descent seniority for at least 10 years.... I guess that is a lot of things to weigh in before making any educated decision. Thanks again for your factual info.

Tanga

I think many of us came here because of quality of life, we are all being poached this very moment from the legacies. Like you said it’s your choice. We have a long way to go don’t worry about the money quality of life is where it is.

09-04-2022, 02:47 PM

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What software you use?

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09-04-2022, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by symbian simian

If you get in to AA you will be a senior NB captain in 10 years. Succes rate of startups isn't very good.

Go to delta can be a captain within a year and be off probation. Apples and oranges depends on what you like.

09-04-2022, 02:58 PM

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If you get in to AA you will be a senior NB captain in 10 years. Succes rate of startups isn't very good.

Thank you. I understand that, part of the CONS. At the same time there is the challenge and excitement of being part of something new from almost the beginning. But sure, it is a gamble with a startup. The point is that with my age, I will probably fly for no more than another 15 years, I will never be a WB Captain again in a Legacy Airline, so then what is the point (talking about seat and A/C alone) of going there... Regardless of the better money and less risk, do you think that QOL is going to be better at a bigger and more established Airline? when you start at the bottom of a 14000+ list? I'm seriously asking, it's not rhetoric or sarcastic. I'm being flying outside of the US for many years now and lost touch with "aviation reality" here (USA) and trying to catch up with it fast.
Thanks for your input,

Tanga

09-04-2022, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by gearup1006

Go to delta can be a captain within a year and be off probation. Apples and oranges depends on what you like.

I know. Same at United, CAPT positions are no being taken at LAX or SFO, so off probation and you are in the left seat. But it is not my priority, otherwise I will stay where I'm, WB Captain overseas. I see AVELO as a great opportunity to improve my QOL, and the DEC position is attractive from the financial point of view, money is not my priority but hey!, we all need it and we all have different "minimums" regarding that.

09-04-2022, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by gearup1006

Go to delta can be a captain within a year and be off probation. Apples and oranges depends on what you like.

09-04-2022, 03:52 PM

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apologies, not used to you being serious

apology accepted! i’m not used to it either

09-04-2022, 09:40 PM

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apology accepted! i’m not used to it either

. It’s a wild ride.

09-04-2022, 09:46 PM

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Go to delta can be a captain within a year and be off probation. Apples and oranges depends on what you like.

Yes, but he was pretty specific about wanting QOL. You can upgrade in a year, and will subsequently wait another 5 years to get off reserve. And that’s the reason you can hold it in a year. Nobody wants it. You really need time to hold a line. Reserve is okay in base, with the exception of NYC, because EWR/LGA/JFK. Don’t work for DL, never been based there, YMMV, IANAL, just saying.

09-04-2022, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Tangalanga

I’m at NK, like the people I work with, and got lucky with my timing (4th time was the charm ;/ ). Yes if you go to AA you will be #14K, and coming from international WB CA, that’s a step down. But in 15 years they will retire way over half the list. For me personally, I would take that over trying to be #1 at the small pond. I did it twice earlier on, and had to redo my resume every time. Most importantly, go where you think you will fit in. Definitely not worth being miserable.