tom11011

It isn't a question of furlough for companies this small, its whether you come to work one day and the doors are closed.

BStill

Granted. But is either one significantly healthier than the other in that regard?

bigstick

Nobody can reliably predict what will happen much beyond a year in this industry. Think of it this way- we do not even reach the peak of the pilot attrition problem for another 3 years. Then, its 5 more years of what we have today. Its likely small airlines will fold or consolidate or both. Avelo, Breeze, Allegiant, Frontier and to some degree even Southwest are in for a rough ride.

bluespoon

Both places are claiming they’ll be profitable in the coming months even. Avelo has very different plans than Breeze. You might say Avelo is more conservative in growth, a true Allegiant part 2. Breeze has more ambitious plans. You need to consider that as well.

pilotr

Greetings,
Anyone know how much the family plan Health Insurance costs monthly? Employee and Spouse? preferably HDHP?

And is it effective immediately in training?

Many thanks...

chihuahua

That's actually kind of one of the concerning things. They've been claiming they'll be profitable in the coming months for over a year now.

Dash 8 Q400

I’d stay away from either as they are both a mess and the risk outweighs the reward.

Breeze is growing way too fast for it’s resources and can’t seem to get it’s act together. The working conditions are getting worse and it’s burning cash at an alarming rate. It is having to seek new investment to stay afloat and quite frankly, poeple are steering clear now. The benefit package isn’t that good and is expensive.

Avelo doesn’t seem to have a real robust plan. It started on the West Coast, moved to the East and seems to be floundering a bit. Management seems to be a big issue and the group looks dissuaded. You need strong morale to be succesful but the internal strife is damming. Lots of issues and no real direction it appears.

Today, the market is different. The majors are finally having to pay real market wages. Will it last? The LCCs, and what I call the new hybrid LCCs, are struggling and will continue to do so because of market forces. At this juncture you’re better off at a regional, get the bonus and move on to the majors.

These are observations and career advice based on experience but it could all change tomorrow. One must be ready because this business is not for the faint of heart.

Good luck.

BStill

Timing now is odd. The Regional forums are talking about how FO hiring/training has slowed due to the CA shortage at thr Regionals, and recommending the ULCC//LCC's instead. and vice versa here. maybe that leads me to the fractionals...

bluespoon

It doesn’t matter what you fly. Go some place that you don’t have to commute to or gives you the most time at home.

Grumpyaviator

Breeze. The DO at Avelo has run every place he’s been into the ground. The mgmt of Breeze has a record of success.