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symbian simian 07-04-2022 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna (Post 3454864)
No, but nice try.

It would only be greedy young pilots if there was a faction pushing for Age 56 (same as air traffic controllers) or something.

Pushing for 56 is the exact same thing as pushing to keep 65. Any age is pretty much arbitrary. Your resistance to change is because of your greed and selfishness. It took me 20 years to break $100K as a pilot, and 5 of those were because of age 65. You know what I didn't do? Pretend that I was angry because it was unfair to other people.

Profane Kahuna 07-04-2022 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 3454893)
Pushing for 56 is the exact same thing as pushing to keep 65.

None of the younger pilots are pushing for Age 56. And it was an example, it's not really a thing.

And no, by no stretch of the imagination, would continuing with the status quo of 65 be the same as pushing for Age 56.

symbian simian 07-04-2022 08:54 PM


Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna (Post 3454913)
None of the younger pilots are pushing for Age 56. And it was an example, it's not really a thing.

And no, by no stretch of the imagination, would continuing with the status quo of 65 be the same as pushing for Age 56.

you are the one who brought it up. I just said that everyone is in the game for themselves and trying to deny that is what I was calling out.
Also hate prune juice.

Profane Kahuna 07-05-2022 02:11 AM


Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 3455007)
you are the one who brought it up. I just said that everyone is in the game for themselves and trying to deny that is what I was calling out.
Also hate prune juice.

Still a negative there. You calling the opposing groups the same doesn't make it so.

Both groups agreed to a set of terms when they joined the profession. Now, one group wants to change those terms to benefit themselves. That is the difference.

CBreezy 07-05-2022 04:24 AM


Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 3455007)
you are the one who brought it up. I just said that everyone is in the game for themselves and trying to deny that is what I was calling out.
Also hate prune juice.

There's a big difference between not wanting to further devalue your career for the benefit of the few and wanting to move the retirement age so you can spend years longer in the most lucrative and highest QOL position. Both are not greed.

METO Guido 07-05-2022 06:19 AM

Greed, selfishness can outlast any career. Fit & still frisky, water cannon at 80. Why not?

DirtHead 07-05-2022 07:32 AM

If airliners aren’t all single/0 pilot 30 years from now I’ll eat my hat. I want my money now, not a longer career after 2-3 years of stagnation. I sincerely hope those who have been able to retire in aviation, and have been planning on retirement at 65 can enjoy their next chapter.

symbian simian 07-05-2022 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna (Post 3455030)
Still a negative there. You calling the opposing groups the same doesn't make it so.

Both groups agreed to a set of terms when they joined the profession. Now, one group wants to change those terms to benefit themselves. That is the difference.

Nope. That is not what is happening. No big lobby of grey pilots asking for age 68. Only thing I said was that your motivation to keep the status quo is exactly as selfish as those wanting to change it. And as far as agreeing to a set of terms, pulleeeze give me a break. 3 pilot cockpit, far 117, 1500 hour rule, do i need to go on? The only reason you are against age 68 is because you don't benefit from it. Admit it and move on. That's what I did when age 65 happened.

Profane Kahuna 07-05-2022 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 3455212)
Only thing I said was that your motivation to keep the status quo is exactly as selfish as those wanting to change it. And as far as agreeing to a set of terms, pulleeeze give me a break. 3 pilot cockpit, far 117, 1500 hour rule, do i need to go on? The only reason you are against age 68 is because you don't benefit from it. Admit it and move on. That's what I did when age 65 happened.

You are about as far out of reality as that MyTime2025 troll.

I would benefit from changing the rule to Age 68. So not only are you incorrect in your accusations against me, you are flat out wrong in your reading of other people's motivations.

Andy 07-05-2022 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna (Post 3455229)
You are about as far out of reality as that MyTime2025 troll.

I would benefit from changing the rule to Age 68. So not only are you incorrect in your accusations against me, you are flat out wrong in your reading of other people's motivations.

Are you still an FO at LUV? My guess is FO.
What's your age? My guess is early 50s.
Answer those questions and then we can talk about motivations.


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