ALPA: Don't raise retirement age
05-20-2022, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Tiger Pilot
The only option left: increase pay and QoL to attract more people to the industry.
if there was a like button.
so a Project Manager at a tech company can pull in 500k. In their 20s possibly. Whats a wide body CA worth? Double? Triple ?
unfortunatly it’s more like half. Fix that and there won’t be a “shortage” anymore.
05-20-2022, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer
So the unions don't want to allow an extension of retirement age, and they don't want to lower the artificially high entry barrier, so what solutions are they actually coming up with to help solve at least the current short term acute pilot shortage?
05-20-2022, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Tiger Pilot
The only option left: increase pay and QoL to attract more people to the industry.
Originally Posted by OOfff
yeah, the unions are the bad guys for not wanting to devalue the labor of their members 
Originally Posted by dualinput
If there was a high barrier to entry the compensation would be higher. You can be a pilot zero to hero in less than two years
05-20-2022, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer
That doesn't solve anything in the short term. Maybe not even the mid-term.
False cause and effect. Neither lowering the entry requirements or extending the retirement age at the current point in time will have any effect on wages. Nearly impossible to get to 1500 in less than two years, and for most it costs well over $100k.
False cause and effect. Neither lowering the entry requirements or extending the retirement age at the current point in time will have any effect on wages. Nearly impossible to get to 1500 in less than two years, and for most it costs well over $100k.
2. You 100% can get 1500hrs in less than two years.
3. Do you know how much it costs and how long it takes to get a bachelor, go to med school, and complete a residency? A lot longer than two years and a lot more than $100k. Now that’s a barrier to entry yet folk still getting into the field. I bet less than half do it bc their primary reason is helping people. Big money and prestige are primary. Give us that and no more shortage and you could even make the requirements that much harder.
05-20-2022, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer
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False cause and effect. Neither lowering the entry requirements or extending the retirement age at the current point in time will have any effect on wages. .
False cause and effect. Neither lowering the entry requirements or extending the retirement age at the current point in time will have any effect on wages. .
05-20-2022, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer
So the unions don't want to allow an extension of retirement age, and they don't want to lower the artificially high entry barrier, so what solutions are they actually coming up with to help solve at least the current short term acute pilot shortage?
05-20-2022, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by threeighteen
They were against age 65 for years before they caved. I wouldn't have been shocked to see them cave on this one too, but I'm glad they didn't.
05-20-2022, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by dualinput
If there was a high barrier to entry the compensation would be higher. Surgeons have a high barrier to entry which is why they make a lot of money. You can be a pilot zero to hero in less than two years
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