ALPA: Don't raise retirement age
06-03-2022 | 07:33 PM
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You are probably comparing straight hourly wages without any consideration toward soft money generated by all the work rule changes. A widebody CA in 1980 earning 120,000 a year would need to make 420,000 a year now. That’s easily done at Delta and I suspect American and United. In fact at Delta that’s probably well below the average Widebody CA pay. It’s not difficult to crack 600,000 and some pilots have exceeded 900,000 in a year. If you compare it to 2019 when the current round of contracts got put on ice by covid we were solidly ahead of inflation.
06-04-2022 | 02:21 AM
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Look at hourly rates and an average line value = what the avg pilot makes on any aircraft. Taking advantage of schedule manipulation, additional flying and green slips should never be conflated with book rates
06-04-2022 | 04:01 AM
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I know lots of guys who broke 600K on the 330. Some quite junior. People forget all the times they get extra pay for reroute, DC excess, purchased trips, training, vacation, profit sharing and a overtime trip now and then. The pilots breaking 900k were because of the 350 issues.
06-04-2022 | 06:00 AM
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I know lots of guys who broke 600K on the 330. Some quite junior. People forget all the times they get extra pay for reroute, DC excess, purchased trips, training, vacation, profit sharing and a overtime trip now and then. The pilots breaking 900k were because of the 350 issues.
06-04-2022 | 07:26 AM
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You are probably comparing straight hourly wages without any consideration toward soft money generated by all the work rule changes. A widebody CA in 1980 earning 120,000 a year would need to make 420,000 a year now. That’s easily done at Delta and I suspect American and United. In fact at Delta that’s probably well below the average Widebody CA pay. It’s not difficult to crack 600,000 and some pilots have exceeded 900,000 in a year. If you compare it to 2019 when the current round of contracts got put on ice by covid we were solidly ahead of inflation.
06-04-2022 | 07:50 AM
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I know lots of guys who broke 600K on the 330. Some quite junior. People forget all the times they get extra pay for reroute, DC excess, purchased trips, training, vacation, profit sharing and a overtime trip now and then. The pilots breaking 900k were because of the 350 issues.
In early 2019 I met a 350 FO who told me he had cleared (either 550k or 600k I can’t remember right now, I think it was 600k, but not certain) in 2018, and the CA he just finished flying with was north of 1mil
06-04-2022 | 08:02 AM
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there are quite a few people I know at DL across all seniority ranges making significantly more than their hourly rate would suggest by working the system/contract.
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