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Originally Posted by BlueScholar
(Post 3426731)
There are more ATP holders than commercial pilot jobs. How is that a shortage?
2. How many are over 65? 3. How many have medicals? You could actually pull that from the database. 4. How many have zero interest in airlines, either employed in other sectors or not flying at all? |
Originally Posted by CFIsoonToBeFO
(Post 3429775)
How many of these ATP holders are over 65 and how many have Corporate Jobs. We need these stats to prove/dis-prove the surplus of ATP’s data
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Originally Posted by dualinput
(Post 3429783)
If they have corporate jobs and aren’t leaving to be airline pilots it’s because the compensation isn’t high enough. It’s not a shortage.
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Originally Posted by CFIsoonToBeFO
(Post 3429788)
Not true. Some like their bosses and don’t want to relocate and enjoy being at home and not being based in “Big Cities”. Not everyone will jump ship for an extra dollar (which debunks ALPA’s thoughts. If so they’d stay at the regionals and flow and collect their 150-200k bonuses
I flew corporate, liked my boss, didn’t want to relocate, and enjoyed being at home and not being based in “Big Cities”. Yet here I am. My needs were met to make it worthwhile for me. Others that haven’t simply have different thresholds that haven’t been met yet. |
Originally Posted by SonicFlyer
(Post 3427282)
The fundamental problem is that the aviation market is overregulated. These problems are caused by government and will not be fixed until government gets out of the way.
It ain't called "Leviathan" for nothing. Not trying to be hostile. But appealing to government to "get out the way" is a fool's errand. |
Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 3429778)
1. How many are still alive? The FAA database doesn't track that. Did somebody research every single name? If not, they're voting the graveyard.
2. How many are over 65? 3. How many have medicals? You could actually pull that from the database. 4. How many have zero interest in airlines, either employed in other sectors or not flying at all? |
Originally Posted by CBreezy
(Post 3429953)
It's been awhile since I looked, but last I checked, in order to be considered an active ATP/Commercial, you had to hold a valid medical and under 65
But you can still have zero interest in airlines, rich guys who have an ATP and 1C/2C medical for insurance. For practical purposes, you could assume that *most* such pilots over age 50 are not interested in airlines if they're not currently in the airlines. |
Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 3429778)
1. How many are still alive? The FAA database doesn't track that. Did somebody research every single name? If not, they're voting the graveyard.
2. How many are over 65? 3. How many have medicals? You could actually pull that from the database. 4. How many have zero interest in airlines, either employed in other sectors or not flying at all? Just my educated guess. |
Originally Posted by SonicFlyer
(Post 3426701)
So the unions don't want to allow an extension of retirement age, and they don't want to lower the artificially high entry barrier, so what solutions are they actually coming up with to help solve at least the current short term acute pilot shortage?
no, the ATP rule only restores a portion of the experience it used to take. |
Originally Posted by Cujo665
(Post 3431234)
please. The historical entry requirement was an ATP and several thousand hours, like around 4500 to get an RJ jet job. .
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