Everyone has explained it to you as well but you can't quite get it through your head either.

Renslow was hired at Colgan with 618 total time. Ergo, the ATP rule would have precluded his being hired at Colgan. Had he been subjected to the ATP rule, he would have needed close to 900 more hours. He would have had many more opportunities to learn and command a smaller aircraft before commanding a transport category aircraft. Even if he resisted learning anything from CFI'ing those 900 hours, it would have provided more opportunity to stall in real life.
There's a lot you can learn in 1500 hours. And again, even if you don't learn, it provides a lot of chances for idiots to be selected out of this career. Or to self select themselves out of existence before they take 50 terrified passengers with them.

But I don't expect you to agree to any of this, because it's bad for your bottom line

I do think better FAA training record keeping and access would have done more. Just like the PF in Atlas crash, this individual had a long history of failures he managed to keep hidden from several employers. Being in a regional with training and checking events could weed these people out in a way that being a bad flight instructor or banner tower that manages to survive won't. Will they weed them out? I think that is the question...

I can name that tune in just one word…

Atlas!

Wages can go lower since bonuses can vanish if supply lines for pilots exceed the demand. You sure have a bone to pick about this issue. Either you just like to argue or you have great nostalgia for the food stamp days. No coincidence crap wages went away after mins went up.

You already showed everyone you don't understand basic economics, but you just went and doubled down on it. Thanks for proving my point!

Summary....if the massive retirements get reduced to ZERO for three years and the 1500 hour requirement gets reduced like you are advocating for, there will be more ATP holding "Pilots" than landscapers in a Home Depot parking lot......AND WAGES WILL GO DOWN.




Did you know you are responding to 2 different people? I never said those things. Make a different response.

Do you have a hard time keeping conversations straight in your head?

You are REALLY bad at math.
Except that the unions wouldn't let that happen. And even if the 1500 hour rule was lowered, and the retirement age were extended, that would only ease the problem, not solve it long term.

Correlation doesn't equal causation.Maybe, but it has never been substantiated with numbers. So it's nothing more than a thin justification used by politicians, bureaucrats, and union hacks.

This is like watching that guy crash his homebuilt rocketship trying to prove the Earth is flat.

When you aren't here providing comic relief to actual airline pilots does your job involve balloons, big floppy shoes, and a red nose?

Nah he’s likely a Boeing test pilot.

I was hired in early 2000 at Eagle. I had a recent ATP and 600 multi at the time and was bottom of the barrel in experience in my class. A few years later and we had very low time folks get hired.

The cycle does funny things.

I know a guy long retired from Northwest who was hired at his first airline before he even had an instrument rating.