the post sailing was responding to specifically mentioned WB CA pay, that was where that came from, he was not saying every pilot at DL makes that.

there are quite a few people I know at DL across all seniority ranges making significantly more than their hourly rate would suggest by working the system/contract.

I never claimed he said that.

Still wondering how many of the 13,000ish pilots are in that situation?

I’d heard that 5 pilots made a mil in 2019. Out of ~14,400.

No idea how many made over 600k, but my completely uninformed guess is that it’s less than a thousand.

Hopefully someone more informed chimes in.

No in typical pilot fashion they all claim to "know a guy doing it" and try to imply anyone can do it but in fact your chances of lining everything up and pulling that off are about 5 in... oh 13,500.

Can we get back to the main problem. He said it was okay the pay rates were lower because of all those contract gains we had.

Sailingfun? Go troll the Delta forums. He's management lackey #1. Just laugh at his BS and move on like they all do over in widget land.

What gets me is the other accounts chiming in that agree with him or validate his posts. I know there aren’t many pilots at D that could possible agree with him on so many things. It seems management has an operation here on APC to try to sway pilot opinion.

I certainly implied no such thing. You obviously have to be a WB CA, and most likely need some seniority to game the system to that degree. So maybe 30-50% of WB CA's are in a position to do it.

For the $1M+ threshold, it could quite plausibly be limited to a number you can count on both or even one hand.

$600K? One thousand sounds plausible.

Nobody is saying new hire FO's can do that. Only saying that it can be done, which is fact.

It's also possible to get 8 weeks off with vacay + bidding, but that also requires seniority.

No, I said that soft money due to work rule changes counts and it does. Would you rather get 300 an hour and net 300,000 or fly the same schedule getting 250 an hour but net 320,000? The answer is easy. As to the question about 600,000 lots of senior CA’s are making that and if you drop the number to 500,000 the number goes way up including narrow body captains. The original question was a comparison of widebody Captain pay. One other point, most pilots when asked what they made in a year quote their W2. They don’t add back in their contributions to their HSA, 401K and 401 catch-up if applicable.

While ago asked a question about commuting at JB. Their policy apparently requires them to look at weather and traffic. Big D chimes in they have to look at load factor. I replied with a copy/pasta of our policy. Reply was:"Well, it doesn't sound like you are making a concerted effort to get to work!". Really? I am making an effort to follow the contract, just like the other side does.