Normal Sleep Schedule Possible? (LAX)
06-12-2022, 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by 135tankerdriver
I’ll be retiring from the AF soon and trying to decide if the airlines are for me. I’m willing to bid for schedules that are conducive to flying “bankers hours” (if there’s such a thing) even if it means making less money? What does a typical schedule look like for someone who bids for sleep over money at your airline? If hired by an airline I’d most likely live in Temecula, California which is about a two hour drive to the LAX and an hour to ONT. Love to hear peoples thoughts on the subject from the various airlines especially from people based around LAX. Thanks in advance.
06-12-2022, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by TheDuster
LAX was absolute garbage when I was at B6 (thats why I bailed after 4 years), and I’ve heard your sentiment echoed from some of the bros that held out. To the OP, if you’re looking for LAX, stay away from JetBlue.
06-12-2022, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by John Carr
I don’t mean to be crass.
But if you’re going to base a multi million dollar career doing one of the easiest jobs on the planet all based on a sleep schedule, your priorities may be better spent elsewhere.
Embrace the bank robber hours too…
But if you’re going to base a multi million dollar career doing one of the easiest jobs on the planet all based on a sleep schedule, your priorities may be better spent elsewhere.
Embrace the bank robber hours too…
Don’t be a *****. You get used to it quickly and over time your schedule will improve dramatically. “Embrace the suck”.
06-12-2022, 09:31 AM
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From what I read studies show poor sleep and Alzheimer’s disease are correlated. For me trying to get solid sleep with a bankers hours schedule is challenging enough so I’m trying to see how bad my schedule will be if I’m based on the west coast and if the juice is worth the squeeze. Between my mil retirement and my wife’s salary I could move to texas and never work a day in my life if I want so trying to decide if the airline life is worth it.[/QUOTE]
Do you really think you’ll enjoy living off your wife?
From what I read studies show poor sleep and Alzheimer’s disease are correlated. For me trying to get solid sleep with a bankers hours schedule is challenging enough so I’m trying to see how bad my schedule will be if I’m based on the west coast and if the juice is worth the squeeze. Between my mil retirement and my wife’s salary I could move to texas and never work a day in my life if I want so trying to decide if the airline life is worth it.[/QUOTE]
Do you really think you’ll enjoy living off your wife?
06-12-2022, 10:13 AM
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I live in Temecula and work for SWA. I’m pretty senior in my seat and usually get one of my top 3 line choices. I bid pm etops trips and almost never go East. While I certainly wouldn’t call it banking hours typically the latest night I have is the last day of my trips. Usually I finish anywhere from 9 to midnight and then a 1 hour 40 minute drive home. I do my fair share of getting home by 1:30 in the morning. Pretty much my weekly routine with pm trips. I commuted to LAS for the 21 years prior to LAX opening as a base and I am now grateful to be driving to work. I have found that if I stay on pm’s which I’ve always preferred, traffic has not been an issue from Temecula. Traffic on a.m. trips is bad coming home.
06-12-2022, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by swaforme
I live in Temecula and work for SWA. I’m pretty senior in my seat and usually get one of my top 3 line choices. I bid pm etops trips and almost never go East. While I certainly wouldn’t call it banking hours typically the latest night I have is the last day of my trips. Usually I finish anywhere from 9 to midnight and then a 1 hour 40 minute drive home. I do my fair share of getting home by 1:30 in the morning. Pretty much my weekly routine with pm trips. I commuted to LAS for the 21 years prior to LAX opening as a base and I am now grateful to be driving to work. I have found that if I stay on pm’s which I’ve always preferred, traffic has not been an issue from Temecula. Traffic on a.m. trips is bad coming home.
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06-12-2022, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna
Don't you have anyone at your squadron that could set you straight?
I’m deployed but when I get back I’m definitely planning on asking about the typical show and end times. Seems like nearly everyone at the unit flies for AA. I know people that fly for for Delta, SWA and United but they are based on the east coast so I figured I’d try to get some other perspectives for LAX based pilots and see if show times around 8am or end times around 11pm west coast time are possible with some seniority or if crazy show times and red eyes are just a part of doing business.
06-12-2022, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 135tankerdriver
QUOTE=Profane Kahuna;3439172]Don't you have anyone at your squadron that could set you straight?
Is it possible? Absolutely. Will you be able to avoid redeyes at a west coast base while flying for anyone but SWA? Not likely. As with the military, there are dues to be paid. Once you reach a certain point you’ll be able to do, more or less, what you want. I’d imagine your March tanker bros would be able to enlighten you with more specifics.
06-12-2022, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Halon1211
Breeze or Avelo doesn’t have any that I know of and they are west coast...
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https://www.localsyr.com/news/local-news/breeze-airways-first-flight-from-syr-to-vegas-is-off-to-a-bumpy-start/
Last edited by Aviato; 06-12-2022 at 10:03 PM. Reason: Bad link edit
06-14-2022, 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by 135tankerdriver
QUOTE=Profane Kahuna;3439172]Don't you have anyone at your squadron that could set you straight?
You are absolutely looking for a SWA schedule. It’s an absolute no brainer for you. LAX is incredibly junior, so you’ll be able to hold it right out of training. The trips out of LAX are very conducive to the type of schedule you’re looking for. Lots of trips to Hawaii, and if you don’t want those types of trips, then the other ones don’t usually go further east than Denver. So, you’re always within one to two hours of the time zone you live in.
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