Yep.

Allegiant.

How many classes? Are you guys net positive or negative on the year on new hire pilots VS attrition?

+56 year to date, but that is trending down as fewer and fewer show up. We had a class of 9 that was planned for 22+, and resignations have begun picking up again.

+56
The challenge in getting people to come here is $57/hr. 1st year pay and most new hires are going to have to wait a good while to get based where they want, and in the interim it’s a very very difficult commute. To greatly oversimplify.

With what? CFIs? With the higher pay now at most RJ operators and hiring at mainline it makes no sense to go ULCC for most.

At the same time, places like Allegiant offer day trips and even in the most outstation bases there's bound to be a couple ATPs that live in the area.

I think Frontier is still getting a wide variety of applicants.

We upped first year pay to $90/ hour and started paying for hotels in training. That seemed to make a big difference in getting people in the door.

That's pretty much what it's come down to. Unless you live in Iowa, Utah, or Michigan and don't desire the traditional airline lifestyle, you'd be nuts to come here. They are shaking the trees to get these guys to show up. When they recruit ladder climbers who say what they have to say to get hired they don't stay long. Management acts like they don't care, and last week said if they can't get people to show up they'll just shrink the company and park the Airbi to staff the 737s on order.

Mostly regional guys still with a few corporate. New contracts or not it’s still way better to be at Frontier than any regional.

If they can ease the first year transition, there are still a lot of people who will value the long term benefits of a major airline career over other options which may be more lucrative short-term.