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VisionWings 12-21-2022 05:23 AM

this number seems embarrassingly low compared to even some regionals now. That contract needs some work.


Originally Posted by PleaseComplete (Post 3556704)
NK Year 1 FO
Training pay until mid Feb
Holding line since July
474 block

~51k Gross
~7.6 DC

missed probably 5k due to Military leave, 20 hours of premium (200%) flying


JohnDeSpacito 12-21-2022 05:36 AM

Spirit 5 year pay and commuter CA on reserve
$206k w2
$30.5k 401k

$236.6k Total

72 hours min guarantee every month
No x/y list calls (premium)
Too many days in crashpad in a base that’s being shrunk

BeechedJet 12-21-2022 05:48 AM

I decided to leave NK a couple months ago but as a 5/6 year captain stuck on reserve. No drops and never getting a call for premium, I was on pace to make around the same amount of money. 200k to fly 200+ people in the class II out of SJU is horrible.

flyguy81 12-21-2022 06:13 AM

SWA 7yr FO
$288k
$6500 of that is per diem
$11200 of that is profit sharing
$72600 in taxes paid….thanks for that
$40,500 B fund

Total comp: $328,500

YTD block is around 840….way too high. Planning needs to quit with the high block lines.

Work a little OT a month…prob avg 14-15 off
Live in base

pitchtrim 12-21-2022 06:49 AM

I do like the pay at southwest looking at these numbers, but yes those block times are brutal. Spent too many years getting burnt out in the regionals flying that much to want to make the jump to southwest. Not that widebody long haul is for everyone, but I certainly prefer it. Food for thought for pilots considering various jobs.

PleaseComplete 12-21-2022 07:15 AM


Originally Posted by VisionWings (Post 3556719)
this number seems embarrassingly low compared to even some regionals now. That contract needs some work.

I way rounded up the missed pay for the military as well.

It is extremely embarrassing, which is why I posted it, people need to know.

mulcher 12-21-2022 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by pitchtrim (Post 3556803)
I do like the pay at southwest looking at these numbers, but yes those block times are brutal. Spent too many years getting burnt out in the regionals flying that much to want to make the jump to southwest. Not that widebody long haul is for everyone, but I certainly prefer it. Food for thought for pilots considering various jobs.

I don't block near what these guys do. I sure as hell didn't make enough as a CA on 12 year pay. Our rates need to come way up. I doubt SWAPA will be raising the bar though. I'll be voting NO I'm sure.
Salary: $353,000
Perdiem: $7,000
Company NEC: $40,500
Health care: free.
Fly my line blocked 673hrs. I couldn't imagine doing over 800hrs. Sounds very fatiguing.
I call in sick when sick...IMSAFE. I fly with too many with allergies then get sick.
AVG 18 days off per month. I rather be off. I never work over vac or pick up vac months.
Paid way to much for STD and LTD. Better get fixed this contract
Paid for uniforms(I havent had the need to buy anything for a year or two.), parking.
Paid way to much to the guberment.

ZapBrannigan 12-21-2022 08:01 AM

SWA 9yr FO and a few months as CA
$275K
$6200 of that is per diem
$7100 of that is profit sharing
$63000 in taxes
$39143 B fund

Total comp including B fund: $314,000
Lived in base until August. Commuting now. Very very rarely pick up any extra flying. I value my time at home (especially now)


YTD block is around 548, but a month was vacation and another three weeks in school.

mulcher 12-21-2022 08:42 AM

Sorry I forgot to put down SWA. It was my profile picture but have a more appropriate one now. I guess my total would be just north of $400,000 if you believe in adding wages, perdiem and NEC together.

AllYourBaseAreB 12-21-2022 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by Armyguy (Post 3556477)
Is the SWA DC to the 401K different?

I see you made: 321K in W-2 wages and 40K in NEC. and then I see this guy right below your post:
5th year Southwest FO live in base
$220k W2$33k NEC
(his NEC is roughly 15% and your is 12%, did you actually make 280K in W-2 wages?)

he probably contributed the personal max to his 401k, and the DC of 40k plus that equaled the total max, and then subsequent DC money was paid out as normal income


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