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MLCCPilot 01-01-2023 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by new guy (Post 3561779)
I got my CJO and start 9 January at ATI for my first job in commercial aviation.

So let me tell you instead, how in debt I am from this venture:

Cessna 150 bought before 1 hour of airplane training: $43500
CSEL/CMEL/instruments 141 training: $36400
Petrol: $2604
Insurance: $1300 (should be partially refunded)
Profits from selling plane: $3600
Resume review: $125
Emerald coast interview prep: $400
Raven airline app review (irony not lost on me): $300
Logbook software: $300+ and 3 different ones tried. Still not sure if I like what I got.
Checkrides: $1900
ATP-CTP: $3999
ATP written and study software: $225

Starting off at a home based cargo airline I never dreamed I'd get for my first venture into this profession. Pretty damn priceless.
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How did buying the plane work out for you? I am starting training soon and a career changer so I was thinking of picking up a C150 or Cherokee and using it for training. Then keeping it to do some time building on slower CFIing months. I get mixed signals from people I ask, some think it's a great idea and some think its a horrible idea. Also I was told if it has to go down for maintenance of any kind I won't get it back for months due to shop backlogs. Did you have any issues or was it mostly smooth sailing?

beech1980 01-01-2023 10:35 AM

Sun Country year 9/10 Captain
491k gross includes
40.5 DC
21k cash over cap paid 12-30-22
7k per diem
maxed out HSA


80 nights away
750 block hours flown
The new contract is great… work rules and premium makes up for the lower rates.

Aero1900 01-01-2023 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by beech1980 (Post 3563399)
Sun Country year 9/10 Captain
491k gross includes
40.5 DC
21k cash over cap paid 12-30-22
7k per diem
maxed out HSA


80 nights away
750 block hours flown
The new contract is great… work rules and premium makes up for the lower rates.

Well damn.... that's real nice

NVR L8 01-01-2023 01:07 PM

SCA 12+ Year Captain
$499.9 Gross
Includes:
$8k Per Diem
401k Maxed out

Fourpaw 01-01-2023 04:06 PM

DAL NB FO

3 year seniority

Gross-217k
PD-5k
401-36k

Total: 258k


First 1/4 RSV, rest line. One 2m stretch on disability. Hustled hard through the summer.

bleedair 01-01-2023 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by Fourpaw (Post 3563524)
DAL NB FO

3 year seniority

Gross-217k
PD-5k
401-36k

Total: 258k


First 1/4 RSV, rest line. One 2m stretch on disability. Hustled hard through the summer.

Nice…Block time?

Beachboy 01-01-2023 05:28 PM

US Navy F18 pilot
Year 6/7
2022 hours flown: 230 (Good year but only due to deployment. Probably average 150/year)

$82K base pay
$27K housing allowance
$3K food allowance
$7K flight pay
$3.8K “company” match

Total Gross: ~123K

Nights away from home ~ 7 months
Posting this as a joke but damn... the grass is looking pretty green right now.

FXLAX 01-01-2023 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 3563364)
Different monkey, but same company and longevity. Reserve I have to think.

If that is the case, it puts his pay per block hour into perspective. That would be true for anyone on reserve. Pay per day, where you count reserve days not used, would be a better metric in those situations.


Originally Posted by beech1980 (Post 3563399)
Sun Country year 9/10 Captain
491k gross includes
40.5 DC
21k cash over cap paid 12-30-22
7k per diem
maxed out HSA


80 nights away
750 block hours flown
The new contract is great… work rules and premium makes up for the lower rates.

Are you saying that your employer contributed the max allowable into your HSA? That’s about $7300?

Tranquility 01-01-2023 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by Chimpy (Post 3562813)
9 year Spirit CA with the only number that matters…..

$1166.66 per block hour. (Including Per diem)

258 block for the year.

just under $350k with 401k. Too lazy to look for average days off per month but it’s a lot.

Sooooo, was giving up the ability to checkerboard worth it?? :D

beech1980 01-01-2023 08:41 PM


Originally Posted by FXLAX (Post 3563584)
If that is the case, it puts his pay per block hour into perspective. That would be true for anyone on reserve. Pay per day, where you count reserve days not used, would be a better metric in those situations.



Are you saying that your employer contributed the max allowable into your HSA? That’s about $7300?

no. I did. I was going to edit it but for some reason I can’t.


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