Please adhere to jumpseat etiquette
#191
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I disagree. It's not enough of an impairment for me to not want to offer it up to anyone who needs it, but it's certainly an impairment. There are multiple times during pre-departure and after arrival procedures where a 737 jumpseater is in the exact spot that could be defined as "in the way". And in the event of an emergency requiring a quick exit, it's going to be a clown show especially if the jumpseater hasn't collapsed and stowed the seat enough to be proficient and quick about it. I've also inadvertently poured the remnants of my lunch onto a jumpseater's right leg/foot when he was accidentally standing on the trash bag and it exceeded my circus performer balancing act capabilities trying to get the bag open, out from under his foot, with unexpected light chop, with a few ounces of teriyaki sauce still in the bowl. Oops.
I'm not EVER mad about a jumpseater up front, but in my opinion there absolutely is an impact. Is the impact "too much"? Not in my experience. But it is an additive condition that at the very least slows push and degrades the final communication with the FA prior to closing the door. Will I ever deny jumpseat because of that impact? Most likely not. I just think it's ridiculous to say there is "zero" or "no" impact. Because there is, especially in the 737.
In the 320 the impact was significantly lower. I don't remember ever dumping my lunch on the foot of a 'bus jumpseater.
I'm not EVER mad about a jumpseater up front, but in my opinion there absolutely is an impact. Is the impact "too much"? Not in my experience. But it is an additive condition that at the very least slows push and degrades the final communication with the FA prior to closing the door. Will I ever deny jumpseat because of that impact? Most likely not. I just think it's ridiculous to say there is "zero" or "no" impact. Because there is, especially in the 737.
In the 320 the impact was significantly lower. I don't remember ever dumping my lunch on the foot of a 'bus jumpseater.
As for emergency, lol. That's an absurd excuse. And if you're THAT worried, give a real thorough brief and have him practice. There. Problem solved
As far as trash, "hey man, can you dump this if the trash for me? Thanks."
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I witnessed this situation last week and curious of others' opinions. SFO-DEN on a 787, roughly 40 seats open in the back. I'm OAL so I asked the agent to list as a jumpseater and said I'd happily take any seat in the back. A young regional FO also wanted to list as a jumpseater, but when the agent told him he'd get a seat, he rather politely insisted on sitting in the cockpit instead. The agent was confused and told him there were both window and isle seats left, but he insisted on the front. When I got up to the cockpit he had already talked to the captain who I assume gave him permission. But I could tell it was awkward up there when I went to check in. I reassured them I was happy with a seat in the back and thanked them for the ride. I've always been of the mindset that you always take a seat in the back unless it is full (barring unusual or weird circumstances). The kid was also wearing those slacks that look like jeans with his full uniform, so maybe that's what turned me off on the whole situation.
The 787 has a nice bunk, and that flight is unaugmented. You do the math…
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In your opinion that is a fact. Got it. You sound like you start every brief with "I'm a chill laid back guy"
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You would be correct that a 2nd JS restricts the movement of the CA seat. But the first JS does not and to claim it does is contrary to reality
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