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symbian simian 03-17-2024 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 3782598)
If you're making in excess of $200k per year, retire at normal retirement age and run out of money at 85, you didn't plan very well.

You do you. My plan is to retire with enough money that I can take out what I need/want, without the principal going down. Based on a conservative ROI and corrected for higher than average inflation. I also plan on SSI not paying. Maybe my spending is a problem, but my planning is not.

Red Forman 03-17-2024 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 3782613)
You do you. My plan is to retire with enough money that I can take out what I need/want, without the principal going down. Based on a conservative ROI and corrected for higher than average inflation. I also plan on SSI not paying. Maybe my spending is a problem, but my planning is not.

And you can do all of that when you retire at 65.

highfarfast 03-17-2024 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 3782613)
You do you. My plan is to retire with enough money that I can take out what I need/want, without the principal going down. Based on a conservative ROI and corrected for higher than average inflation. I also plan on SSI not paying. Maybe my spending is a problem, but my planning is not.

Funny enough, me too.

Fly4FunAA 03-17-2024 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 3782550)
Call me spoiled, but I would like to avoid being broke and old, I was broke when I was younger, and I am getting older, can't say I like either..... And I would like to leave my kids at least the family home. My in-laws are also rapidly approaching 90 and still lliving without help. All 4 still travelling and enjoying life until well past 80. Good chance I will be in that position, so that is what I plan for. If that means working longer and harder: my choice, my problem.

To be fair human life expectancy continues to increase as time goes on so most likely most of us will live well past 65. However, there’s no reason you should seriously be worried about running out of money. If you are then that’s a personal problem and you need to reevaluate the current lifestyle you’re living and live below your means.

WHACKMASTER 03-17-2024 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by Fly4FunAA (Post 3782645)
To be fair human life expectancy continues to increase as time goes on so most likely most of us will live well past 65. However, there’s no reason you should seriously be worried about running out of money. If you are then that’s a personal problem and you need to reevaluate the current lifestyle you’re living and live below your means.

lmao. Thanks Dad 🙄

PineappleXpres 03-17-2024 08:22 PM


Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 3782613)
You do you. My plan is to retire with enough money that I can take out what I need/want, without the principal going down. Based on a conservative ROI and corrected for higher than average inflation. I also plan on SSI not paying. Maybe my spending is a problem, but my planning is not.

Millennials are about to receive the largest transfer of wealth in history. GenZ doesn’t even want to show up for a job interview and is already tired of “adulting”. Even if you split half your primary homes market value a few ways. They’ll get a good down payment or bump in their financials.

Spending isn’t a problem. You're living YOUR life. Posterity is an ideology from a time of the have and have not nobility.

bonvoyage 03-18-2024 06:22 AM


Originally Posted by Fly4FunAA (Post 3782645)
To be fair human life expectancy continues to increase as time goes on so most likely most of us will live well past 65. However, there’s no reason you should seriously be worried about running out of money. If you are then that’s a personal problem and you need to reevaluate the current lifestyle you’re living and live below your means.

You kids are blowing your retirement potential eating all that avocado toast and buying coffee!!

rickair7777 03-18-2024 07:11 AM


Originally Posted by PineappleXpres (Post 3782665)
Spending isn’t a problem. You're living YOUR life. Posterity is an ideology from a time of the have and have not nobility.

I'm actually good with strict limits on inheritance. We don't really need oligarch families with massive wealth across generations and centuries in this country.

But human nature is to want to take care of your kids, so you need to allow for *some* inheritance. With some administrative difficulty you could allow X amount to go to the kids, but then reduce how much of that could be passed to grandkids, etc. The taxman would have to keep accurate records for 100+ years.

PineappleXpres 03-18-2024 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3782725)
I'm actually good with strict limits on inheritance. We don't really need oligarch families with massive wealth across generations and centuries in this country.

But human nature is to want to take care of your kids, so you need to allow for *some* inheritance. With some administrative difficulty you could allow X amount to go to the kids, but then reduce how much of that could be passed to grandkids, etc. The taxman would have to keep accurate records for 100+ years.

I get where you are coming from, but if you invested in educating your kids helping them through college relatively debt free, then the need to amass multiple vacation properties and a giant portfolio you don’t plan on liquidating in time I think goes against your intent. Air bnb is great, you can do that instead for your travels. You can pay for experiential things instead of amassing and needing income to maintain a lifestyle from peak earnings in the long term. This is a cultural thing we need to start taking a hard look at. I’ve seen some of my childhood peers who make a living managing their families property portfolio and there is a sadness to it.

AbjectFutility 03-18-2024 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by mittenstate (Post 3782741)
This is the dumbest thing I’ve read from you.

IMO it depends on his definition of "some inheritance".

I'm guess none of you would be personally affected by what he suggests.


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