I kind of picture him like the Steven Crowder meme, sitting at a table in a public place with the CHANGE MY MIND sign, just looking for people to argue with.

You can vote with your feet. Good luck finding a better option.

I love 'libertarians' who lament government and central banks. I am still waiting for an example of a robust economy without either.

read the rest of it. You cannot opt out anywhere in the world. You must consent to some form of governance, which means it’s not consent.

thats fine, but don’t pretend it’s not true.

Anywhere? I bet you could find some remote locale where nobody would care one iota what you do (freedumb), but that is not my point. Good luck finding a better system than the US or some of the better western democratic countries and I am still waiting on that example of libertarian nirvana that so many seem to love using as their imaginary standard.

you would still be subject to the government in the territory in which you live. Not getting caught doesn’t mean you’ve had the option of opting out.

I'm not talking about finding a better place, I’m talking about the idea that you have no way to not be compelled to consent to governance. Whether that’s right or wrong, it’s true.

Whatever entirely flawed and broken system we have now has me, as an upper middle class delta captain, pretty much at the pinnacle of the human race as far as healthcare, safety, leisure activities, and overall general stability.

It’s wild that most of us don’t realize this. Yeah, the system could be better, but good lord look at your life now vs. what life was like for people 1000 years ago and what it is even now for 90% of people around the world.

you should all be kissing your lucky stars the random lottery of birth has you where you are instead of dreaming about some utopia. History has also shaken out in your favor pretty well. I’d be cautious about wanting big change to whatever system we have now.

Why? What's the point? Unlike libertarians I prefer discussing reality.

Hear, hear!

This! We've been given the best system of government in the history of humankind, and yet there are some who are like "this sucks, I can do better."

Instead of trying to burn down our existing institutions, why not try to make it better?

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Sooo... if one lives on a boat in international waters who exactly is the government?
How about Antarctica?

But bigger picture ... if you think that living in the Alaska or northern Canada wilderness is going to come with governance, you're just being obstinate. And there are plenty of other places on this globe where one need not be concerned about government.

you cannot live indefinitely in international waters in a self sustaining manner. Due to international treaty, you cannot live in Antarctica.

You’re still subject to governance by those authorities, even if you don’t get caught.