Will Embrarer fill the void left by Boeing?
05-11-2024 | 07:33 PM
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Embraer should have bought the C series, it’s already designed to scale up to a -500 variant.
Bombardier should have launched the -500 first.
They would have to spend a fortune to sell what it already does. Airbus only has to put it into production when the time is right. They also should have bought the CRJ support, I think Mitsubishi is lost with that.
Bombardier should have launched the -500 first.
They would have to spend a fortune to sell what it already does. Airbus only has to put it into production when the time is right. They also should have bought the CRJ support, I think Mitsubishi is lost with that.
1. Airbus likely had more money to buy it than Embraer.
2. Launching the -500 first? Typically the smaller versions are launched first before the stretch. For example, 737-100 and 200 were launched before the 737-800 and Max.
That is how it works in real life.
05-17-2024 | 01:29 AM
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Life just doesn't work that way.
1. Airbus likely had more money to buy it than Embraer.
2. Launching the -500 first? Typically the smaller versions are launched first before the stretch. For example, 737-100 and 200 were launched before the 737-800 and Max.
That is how it works in real life.
1. Airbus likely had more money to buy it than Embraer.
2. Launching the -500 first? Typically the smaller versions are launched first before the stretch. For example, 737-100 and 200 were launched before the 737-800 and Max.
That is how it works in real life.
The C-Series was selling poorly and widely regarded as a commercial flop. Airbus became a partner for peanuts to act as a stability booster. Then Boeing being Boeing lobbied to get ridiculous import duties imposed after the Delta order. Bombardier practically gave away the operation because it was a money loser at the time and Airbus could move production to the USA to avoid import duties.
Also, Airbus started with the midsize version of the 320 series in 1988, then the biggest in 1994 (321), then went small in 1996 (319), then smaller in 2003 (318)… defying historical precedence
05-17-2024 | 02:58 AM
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It didnt cost a lot of money
The C-Series was selling poorly and widely regarded as a commercial flop. Airbus became a partner for peanuts to act as a stability booster. Then Boeing being Boeing lobbied to get ridiculous import duties imposed after the Delta order. Bombardier practically gave away the operation because it was a money loser at the time and Airbus could move production to the USA to avoid import duties.
Also, Airbus started with the midsize version of the 320 series in 1988, then the biggest in 1994 (321), then went small in 1996 (319), then smaller in 2003 (318)… defying historical precedence
The C-Series was selling poorly and widely regarded as a commercial flop. Airbus became a partner for peanuts to act as a stability booster. Then Boeing being Boeing lobbied to get ridiculous import duties imposed after the Delta order. Bombardier practically gave away the operation because it was a money loser at the time and Airbus could move production to the USA to avoid import duties.
Also, Airbus started with the midsize version of the 320 series in 1988, then the biggest in 1994 (321), then went small in 1996 (319), then smaller in 2003 (318)… defying historical precedence
05-17-2024 | 05:57 AM
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https://www.theairshowpodcast.com
these guys had a recent episode discussing the likelihood of Embraer making a real 320/737 challenger
these guys had a recent episode discussing the likelihood of Embraer making a real 320/737 challenger
05-17-2024 | 01:30 PM
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It didnt cost a lot of money
The C-Series was selling poorly and widely regarded as a commercial flop. Airbus became a partner for peanuts to act as a stability booster. Then Boeing being Boeing lobbied to get ridiculous import duties imposed after the Delta order. Bombardier practically gave away the operation because it was a money loser at the time and Airbus could move production to the USA to avoid import duties.
The C-Series was selling poorly and widely regarded as a commercial flop. Airbus became a partner for peanuts to act as a stability booster. Then Boeing being Boeing lobbied to get ridiculous import duties imposed after the Delta order. Bombardier practically gave away the operation because it was a money loser at the time and Airbus could move production to the USA to avoid import duties.
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