IATA Calls for Raising Pilot Age Limit to 67
10-02-2025 | 10:59 AM
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Pilot crisis looms
Pilot crisis looms as airlines scramble to fill cockpits
https://www.dw.com/en/pilot-crisis-looms-as-airlines-scramble-to-fill-cockpits/a-74195149
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10-02-2025 | 11:17 AM
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From: A320 FO
Pilot crisis looms as airlines scramble to fill cockpits
https://www.dw.com/en/pilot-crisis-l...its/a-74195149
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10-02-2025 | 11:19 AM
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Pilot crisis looms as airlines scramble to fill cockpits
https://www.dw.com/en/pilot-crisis-l...its/a-74195149
I figured I’d add to the 131 page age 67 desperate housewives arguments under a new header.
10-02-2025 | 07:21 PM
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I suspect those statistics might be missing a key point: Was that 19400 *initial issue* ATP's?
I'm guessing more likely it was total ATP certificates, which included every legacy pilot who changed planes and got a new type that year. Plus anyone else in 91/135 who got a new type on an ATP cert.
2024 was kind of a slow year for airlines, I don't think the US airlines hired anywhere near 19,000. And with the CTP requirement, there are fewer non-airline pilots getting ATP's.
10-03-2025 | 03:53 AM
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Looks like the data is starting to trickle in.
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/science/...-age-fb58z2mr2
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/science/...-age-fb58z2mr2
10-03-2025 | 04:50 AM
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Looks like the data is starting to trickle in.
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/science/...-age-fb58z2mr2
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/science/...-age-fb58z2mr2
10-03-2025 | 05:05 AM
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Looks like the data is starting to trickle in.
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/science/...-age-fb58z2mr2
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/science/...-age-fb58z2mr2
But the data suggests that so-called crystallised intelligence — the accumulation of knowledge and experience — continues to build for decades. Personality traits also mature: conscientiousness (the diligence to see things through) and emotional stability (the ability to keep calm under stress), increase across adulthood before levelling off in later life.
Other skills bloom late. Moral reasoning — the ability to weigh competing principles — deepens with experience, producing sounder judgments about fairness and duty. Financial literacy peaks in the late 60s, perhaps reflecting a lifetime of dealing with bills.
• The middle-aged brain: is yours declining too fast?
how to sharpen it
People also get better at avoiding the sunk-cost fallacy, the human tendency to throw good money after bad. Experience seems to make them less sentimental about lost causes.
Other skills bloom late. Moral reasoning — the ability to weigh competing principles — deepens with experience, producing sounder judgments about fairness and duty. Financial literacy peaks in the late 60s, perhaps reflecting a lifetime of dealing with bills.
• The middle-aged brain: is yours declining too fast?
how to sharpen it
People also get better at avoiding the sunk-cost fallacy, the human tendency to throw good money after bad. Experience seems to make them less sentimental about lost causes.
For now, the early signs that our cognitive health is on a downturn are the mundane and often barely noticeable mild daily memory issues, such as losing the car keys more often or a declining ability to focus on tasks and work. It might seem nothing out of the ordinary but could signify adaptations in the brain that come with negative consequences.
Many studies have suggested that sleep — or a lack of it — has a long-term impact on the brain, with one of the most recent, involving 22,078 midlifers and published in Age and Ageing journal, showing that those who don’t get enough sleep in their forties to sixties could be more prone to developing dementia as they age.
10-03-2025 | 06:03 AM
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Lack of sleep may or may not have the same biological impact as circadian disruption.
A WB guy might get plenty of sleep on his numerous days off, and sleep like a baby after he gets to the hotel. This is why we need pilot-specific data. An executive who works 80 hours/week and sleeps four hours each night probably isn't quite the same.
A WB guy might get plenty of sleep on his numerous days off, and sleep like a baby after he gets to the hotel. This is why we need pilot-specific data. An executive who works 80 hours/week and sleeps four hours each night probably isn't quite the same.
10-03-2025 | 06:28 AM
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Lack of sleep may or may not have the same biological impact as circadian disruption.
A WB guy might get plenty of sleep on his numerous days off, and sleep like a baby after he gets to the hotel. This is why we need pilot-specific data. An executive who works 80 hours/week and sleeps four hours each night probably isn't quite the same.
A WB guy might get plenty of sleep on his numerous days off, and sleep like a baby after he gets to the hotel. This is why we need pilot-specific data. An executive who works 80 hours/week and sleeps four hours each night probably isn't quite the same.
10-03-2025 | 08:14 AM
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They pretty much go hand in hand. Most people on night shift disrupting their cyrcadian rhythm aren't getting full 8 hours of uninterrupted sleep. Your sleep quality is pretty low so you end up getting the negative effects of both cyrcadian disruption and sleep deprivation. "Why we sleep" is a pretty good book on sleep written for layman. The author has been on a few podcasts and I'd say it's worth a listen.
But if you have 18-20 days off per month, do you catch up to mitigate the impact? Don't know, but I wouldn't just assume either way.
I will definitely feel sustained circadian disruption, into my days off. But just one red-eye a week? Don't even miss a beat, take a nap, hit the gym, good to go.
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