IATA Calls for Raising Pilot Age Limit to 67
#1281
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With ICAO keeping retirement at 65, I really don’t see the US changing our retirement age any time soon. There aren’t any contractual requirements for airlines to build carve out lines with domestic only for pilots who are over 65, nor to force older pilots into lower paying positions. If their seniority can hold the seat, they are awarded the seat and will have to be pay protected and bought off of their trips. The CEO’s of the various airlines will testify before Congress that having to keep pilots on the books who can’t fly international would add significant cost to the company, which they would immediately pass on to the consumer in the form of higher ticket prices. The politicians want zero cost political points, not to be blamed for raising the cost of travel. Unless ICAO changes, there’s really nothing to worry about in the US. When they change, we’ll almost certainly follow.
#1282
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From: Whale FO
Let Experienced Pilots Fly
“EXPERIENCE MATTERS”
TUESDAY, September 30, 2025
QUICK UPDATE:
LEPF President Barry Kendrick is in DC now, on the Hill. He is continuing our work to get a Senate companion bill for Congressman Nehls’ legislation to raise the age.
We will not stop advocating for Congress to do the right thing and eliminate or raise the forced pilot retirement age!
Thank you for the continued support. More to follow.
Let Experienced Pilots Fly
He’s cocktailing with Ted Cruz, all is well!
“EXPERIENCE MATTERS”
TUESDAY, September 30, 2025
QUICK UPDATE:
LEPF President Barry Kendrick is in DC now, on the Hill. He is continuing our work to get a Senate companion bill for Congressman Nehls’ legislation to raise the age.
We will not stop advocating for Congress to do the right thing and eliminate or raise the forced pilot retirement age!
Thank you for the continued support. More to follow.
Let Experienced Pilots Fly
He’s cocktailing with Ted Cruz, all is well!
Money well spent. Send more!
Last edited by FangsF15; 10-01-2025 at 07:12 AM. Reason: remove insult
#1283
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There isnt a politician out there, nor will there be for decades and decades, that will sign off on autonomous planes, hover bikes, or even single pilot ops imho. Cya in full effect
#1284
With ICAO keeping retirement at 65, I really don’t see the US changing our retirement age any time soon. There aren’t any contractual requirements for airlines to build carve out lines with domestic only for pilots who are over 65, nor to force older pilots into lower paying positions. If their seniority can hold the seat, they are awarded the seat and will have to be pay protected and bought off of their trips. The CEO’s of the various airlines will testify before Congress that having to keep pilots on the books who can’t fly international would add significant cost to the company, which they would immediately pass on to the consumer in the form of higher ticket prices. The politicians want zero cost political points, not to be blamed for raising the cost of travel. Unless ICAO changes, there’s really nothing to worry about in the US. When they change, we’ll almost certainly follow.
If you aren’t qualified to go somewhere you don’t get pay.
#1285
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Depends on your contract. I can bid an airport or area that requires a special qual. If the company doesn’t put a LCA with me to give me the checkout, they buy the trip. For a WB pilot not legal to fly international, they’d have to buy the trip and there wouldn’t be very many places that they could be reassigned. There isn’t a contract limitation preventing me from bidding something that I’m not qualified to fly. If my seniority can hold it, I’m awarded the trip and it becomes the company’s problem to get me qualified.
#1286
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Depends on your contract. I can bid an airport or area that requires a special qual. If the company doesn’t put a LCA with me to give me the checkout, they buy the trip. For a WB pilot not legal to fly international, they’d have to buy the trip and there wouldn’t be very many places that they could be reassigned. There isn’t a contract limitation preventing me from bidding something that I’m not qualified to fly. If my seniority can hold it, I’m awarded the trip and it becomes the company’s problem to get me qualified.
#1287
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I would imagine the Association could solve that issue rather quickly via LOA. The majority of the membership would have near zero interest in supporting good deals for the gummers after any age increase windfall. All the company would have to do is throw in a small incentive and that pay protection would be gone faster than you can say “positive space commuting.”
#1288
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I honestly don’t think it will come to that. Without ICAO changing also, the airline CEO’s will report how much they’re going to raise ticket prices to compensate for the additional cost and the proposal will be DOA. No politician wants to be blamed for rising ticket prices, they’ll just move the issue to the back burner, pocket the lobbyists money, and give it nothing more than lip service until ICAO changes as well.
#1290
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From: Scratching my head in the right seat of a Douglas product
I honestly don’t think it will come to that. Without ICAO changing also, the airline CEO’s will report how much they’re going to raise ticket prices to compensate for the additional cost and the proposal will be DOA. No politician wants to be blamed for rising ticket prices, they’ll just move the issue to the back burner, pocket the lobbyists money, and give it nothing more than lip service until ICAO changes as well.
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