..... as a new-hire at the bottom of the seniority list just how it was in 2007.

 

Let Experienced Pilots Fly
NOTAM #18 - CLARIFICATION
“RETROACTIVITY”

September 19, 2025

This update is a response to your questions about the new Let Experienced Pilots Fly Act 2025. Specifically, the use of the word “retroactivity.”

 The Bill Language
 Retroactivity vs Eligibility
 Return to Service

The long-awaited bill reintroduced today by Congressman Nehls says on line 23, “RETROACTIVITY.—A pilot who is over 65 years of age on the date of enactment of this bill may return to service in multicrew covered operations until 67 years of age.”
Please know in the context of the bill, the word “retroactivity” is being used to mean “eligibility.” In other words, a pilot who is over 65 years of age on the date of enactment of this bill is “eligible” to return to service.

The phrase “return to service” in the bill means a pilot is eligible to be employed by any part 121 carrier. Congress cannot legislate the hiring or seniority of airline pilots.
Thank you for your questions and the opportunity to clarify the language in the House bill. Please continue to reach out if you have any further questions.

Experience Matters!

LEPF

 

Zero. Because it's not about 'working', 'flying', or 'mentoring', it's about $$$$$.

 

Ouch. Looks like they got caught speeding...again.

But send money! We're not going to open our books, or let you know where your money is going...but send MORE!

 

LOL. Somebody read my post and asked the question "so can I can come back with seniority"?

 

Can't wait to see all those bright happy smiles of the 66 year old previously retired WB CAs filling the seats of a Regional indoc class!

LEPF guys clearly haven't even read the WP349 fully. It has a long list of key issues to solve before the age can be increased.

"request that ICAO establish standardised medical risk assessment and oversight systems informed by a standard set of pilot medical data to reliably assess the medical risks associated with pilot age;"

"a system of standardised data collection about the medical status and health-related performance across all pilot age groups. This data should as a minimum include the incidence of medical conditions in license-holders, medical reasons for retirement from CAT operations, reasons for voluntary non-renewal of medical certificate or loss of medical certificates through regulatory action, and inflight safety and performance data (for all events);"

"identification of locally appropriate medical screening strategies to safeguard future health and performance, including early identification of medical conditions that require further assessment to ensure the risk of incapacity in individual and the system remains acceptable;"

In effect, they need to rewrite a lot of the medical standards.

This process will take years.

 

If any old timers read this, you would cost LEPF and EPAS money. I bet you 90% of their funding comes from people with months before they turn 65.

Nobody will ever know because their books are closed.

The entire premise is “Donate now for the cause because we are so close. It could happen any day now!” In reality, most of them will “get fired” at 65. I doubt many would open the pocket books if a realistic timeline was set.

I’ve got my money on it increasing relatively close to the 65th birthday of a certain congressman’s brother. If it goes past that date, I am sure ol’ Troy will lose some interest.

 

Sit reserve with 31 days of vacation and 12th year pay? Minimum $216,000 + $39,000 401K? $255,000 on day 1? Six 21 days vacations a year? I think you'd be surprised how many would take it.

 

I think people get nostalgic about things towards the end and hold that in their memories.
Those glasses quickly lose the rose color when reality sets in and all those negative things you were tired of show back up.
Add in being right seat to someone, who in your mind, should be junior to you, isn’t as qualified as you, and is probably one of those entitled millenials or possibly even Gen Z.
I don’t think it will be an overwhelming number.

 

not how it works there buddy, once you leave the seniority list, you go back to the bottom on everything, longevity for pay and vacation all reset to year one.

This is in United’s CBA and I am willing to bet most other airlines have the same:

“A Pilot whose name is removed from the Seniority List as set forth in Section 6 shall forfeit all previously accrued longevity”