Can you describe the data that shows that our shortened life span is attributed to “young men dying due to violence”? It would take a heck a lot of young deaths, as you say, to decrease US longevity by 4-6 years. Doesn't seem plausible!

The other part, about socioeconomic factors, do play a role, but many of the countries that exceed our longevity are considered fairly poor. Americans, despite our advanced medical services, are not all that healthy.

Looking this up now - does show the spike (gun deaths, car accidents, and drugs & alcohol) as you said, but then we have a very high rate of vascular disease, metabolic & obesity related diseases, and don’t do all that well with cancer - these come on later in life. It also mentions high rates of Alzheimer’s in the US which isn’t helpful if we are trying to fly longer. So your response has some truth to it, but doesn’t appear to account for all of the shortened life span.

 

Yeah his idea doesn’t really have any merit. If you look at life expectancy by country across the world you will see that women outlive men by about 4 to 5 years in just about every country including those with very low gun deaths.

 

 

I researched it rather exhaustively when 67 first reared it's head. Feel to look it up for yourself... stark contrast between between life expectancy at birth vs. life expectancy for a middle aged upper middle class professional.

You can debate the root causes all you like but the data is black and white. In addition to violence, root cause could well include the testosterone-fueled shenanigans that all young men are prone to. I certainly had a few close calls in my youth. But I don't do that chit any more.

Not only do we no longer ride liter bikes in flips-flops and board shorts, we also tend to exercise and eat right (yes I'm sure there are exceptions if you're based at DFW or MDW).

Bottom line, if you're a 40+ major airline pilot your statistical life expectancy isn't 65 + 3 years.

 

Yes women live longer everywhere.

Early in life that's due to poor judgement on the part of men. Very few chicks riding wheelies on liter bikes at 100mph wearing flip-flops and board shorts.

Later in life, Biology.

I don't see how that's relevant to this conversation. Although I guess you could argue that female pilots should be allowed to fly longer than men.

 

And get ATPs at 21. Frontal lobe development and all.

girls rule, boys drool

 

Yes there is a statistical difference between the average life expectancy and an individuals life expectancy in middle age, due to infant mortality, accidents, etc. The fact that the average gender gap remains constant across nations, leads me to believe that the United States overall lower life expectancy (compared to some other industrialized nations) is due to our poor health. If you doubt this go to Walmart, then go to any store in Switzerland, Japan, Germany.

The US has the highest rate of obesity, highest caloric intake, highest sugar intake, and lowest level of physical activity.

I know you really want to fly until you die, but trying to argue that the US population (and thus pilots) are as healthily as the Japanese is disingenuous.

 

You were claiming that the US’s lower lifespan was due to guns and violence, not because we as a nation are less healthy. If what you are claiming is true, the US would have a significantly greater lifespan difference between men and women since accidents/deaths due to violence disproportionality affect men. That is not the case. The mortality gender gap in the US is the same as Japan. This means something else must be causing our overall lower life expectancy. It’s our unhealthy lifestyle.

 

we also have more chemicals in our foods here in the U.S.

 

Are we really debating why men die before women? It's because we want to. For many married men, death is a peaceful escape.