Originally Posted by ShyGuy

You have a country. You just got bombed by Israel and the United States. Are you really going to tell me you wouldn’t want nuke now? Or more like, you want them now more than ever? Or maybe we’ll try what we did in Ukraine. You don’t need nukes, don’t worry, we got your back if anyone tries anything against you. Yeah, because that’s turned out so well for them since 2022.



As for the second part, a US intelligence analysis concluded that Tehran could withstand a naval blockade for months.


Good luck getting Americans on board for months!


I still domt get it. Here you are, asking for Americans to give the govt some more “months” to carry this through (whatever THIS is).

Yet, we attacked because Israel was going to attack anyway and we had to save ourselves from the Iranian counter attack on our bases. Um, ok? That part is over. What part of blockading continuation have anything to do with Israel attacking anymore?

Yet, we attacked because we were under imminent threat. Um, ok? That part is over. Fordow, Natant, and whatever that 3rd place were obliterated. And more obliteration since Feb 28. It is clear and obvious we are not under any imminent threat anymore.



So. Your words, for Americans. “To see it through.”

To see just what, exactly, through?

Originally Posted by Hubcapped

how do you “finish it” without boots on the ground establishing a defensive coastal network ?

how many 18 year old American kids are you willing to sacrifice for this?

Originally Posted by vaksedtothemax

Lemme get this straight… you don’t want to press a position on a terrorist sponsoring Country because they may retaliate? Also a Country with nuclear ambitions.

Theres a reason I don’t go to bars with other pilots with your mentality. When sh!t hits the fan you’ll cower like a bunch of weaklings.

Originally Posted by Extenda

You gonna head over there? I bailed from the AF a couple years ago so I’m not. My buddies are, unfortunately. How many times did you deploy?

Originally Posted by Extenda

You gonna head over there? I bailed from the AF a couple years ago so I’m not. My buddies are, unfortunately. How many times did you deploy?

Originally Posted by Buck Rogers

Thank you for your service.

Feel better now?

If you don't like the job....don't sign up.

(speaking as an F-16 vet whose grandfather was a WWI instructor pilot(Curtis Jenny), father who was a WW2 Marine grunt then West Point grad and Korea war vet(26 years), father-in- law ....Korea fighter pilot and 2 tours Vietnam as fighter pilot (36 years)..... brother(F-15) squadron commander....and sons who were pilots..all vets.

Somehow you think your service affords you special dispensation.....might I suggest it doesn't?

You need to get over yourself.

Originally Posted by vaksedtothemax

Lemme get this straight… you don’t want to press a position on a terrorist sponsoring Country because they may retaliate? Also a Country with nuclear ambitions.

Theres a reason I don’t go to bars with other pilots with your mentality. When sh!t hits the fan you’ll cower like a bunch of weaklings.

Originally Posted by Hubcapped

i served pointy end of the spear from 03-14. When did you serve?

Originally Posted by vaksedtothemax

I wasn’t destined for military service as I was the first member of my family in history to go to college. My fathers dying wish ( WWII/Korean veteran) was for me to go to college out of HS. It was also pre 9/11. By the time 9/11 came I was already a pilot too old to try flying for the military . I did attempt to join the NYFD post 9/11 but their requirements to have paramedic qualifications was a hurdle.

Is that you’re only retort?

Originally Posted by Buck Rogers

Thank you for your service.

Feel better now?

If you don't like the job....don't sign up.

(speaking as an F-16 vet whose grandfather was a WWI instructor pilot(Curtis Jenny), father who was a WW2 Marine grunt then West Point grad and Korean war vet(26 years), father-in- law ....Korea fighter pilot and 2 tours Vietnam as fighter pilot (36 years)..... brother(F-15) squadron commander....and sons who were pilots..all vets. All were/are proud of their servive but none groveled or pandered for accolades as you continue to do.

Somehow you think your service affords you special dispensation, insight, accolades or folks on APC to kowtow to you "service" and superiority? GMAFB....might I suggest it doesn't?

You need to get over yourself.