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Old 05-09-2026 | 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Buck Rogers
​​​​​​That sounds like a reason not to let Iran have nukes..... why would it be a sticking point for them to allow inspections, no enrichment to HEU and unfettered access for inspectors?
The US announced the United States' withdrawal from the Iran nuclear deal, formally known as the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), on May 8, 2018. In its original format, the JCPOA provided a buffer with a 15-Year Sunset, along with a host of monitors on site, would have been in effect until January 16, 2031. Not the best agreement made… but at least monitors in place along with constraints on uranium enrichment and centrifuge production.

Although academic, at this point, on October 18, 2025, in the aftermath of the 12 Day war, with Israel, Iran officially announced the termination of the agreement after 10 years. Who knows… termination of the JCPOA may have been thwarted under different circumstances, if there were qualified knowledgeable adult experts on foreign policy matters at the table.
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Old 05-09-2026 | 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Buck Rogers
​​​​​​That sounds like a reason not to let Iran have nukes. If Iran has no intentions of having any nukes, have no capability of producing nukes ..... why would it be a sticking point for them to allow inspections, no enrichment to HEU and unfettered access for inspectors?

Maybe because they want Nukes?

This far in to the conflict.... gird your loins and support finishing the job with the SOH blockade. Can Americans stomach 6 months of $4.5 gas prices(call it an xtra 2% to inflation) or, can Iran last longer with 70%+ inflation and permanent damage to their production due to capping of the wells? The conclusion to this dilemma portends future geopolitical consequences. Folks can hate Orange Man.... but at this juncture, it would be best for Americans to all row together to see it thru. The dems can have their impeachment process after the midterms.

Seems like the liberal posters are looking backwards attempting to place blame. Why not look forward to finish it, then have your inquests.

So, where do we go from here? Walk away, incite violence, perpetuate divisiveness? Plenty of time for that later. Lack of support now only lengthens the time to a conclusion.....well ,unless you just want to walk away(which is what Dem leadership wants just so they have a cudgel for election purposes).
how do you “finish it” without boots on the ground establishing a defensive coastal network ?

how many 18 year old American kids are you willing to sacrifice for this?
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Old 05-09-2026 | 06:33 AM
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Old 05-09-2026 | 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Hubcapped
how do you “finish it” without boots on the ground establishing a defensive coastal network ?

how many 18 year old American kids are you willing to sacrifice for this?
That is the nature of military service. If the standard is that no one will die in wars, we might as well have let the Germans invade Pearl Harbor. And you are focusing on keeping the SoH open. We need to finish the campaign that we started. Take the shackles of Israel and use some of the stockpile of Mk-82s we have.
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Old 05-09-2026 | 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by ThumbsUp
That is the nature of military service. If the standard is that no one will die in wars, we might as well have let the Germans invade Pearl Harbor. And you are focusing on keeping the SoH open. We need to finish the campaign that we started. Take the shackles of Israel and use some of the stockpile of Mk-82s we have.
Same keyboard bravado that insisted Saddam was responsible for 9/11. ‘Merica! Btw, poor Bibi. It sucks he’s been so constrained the last 3 years….
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Old 05-09-2026 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
To answer your question, yes you walk away. And tell Israel no further attacks. We have set Iran back 10-20+ yrs from weaponization of nukes. Consider this whole excercise as buying 10-20+ yrs of a guarantee.

Hang the mission accomplished banner and move on.

Heck, the bigger nuke in this country is social security will be broke far before 20 yrs and yet Americans and politicians have zero desire to fix that ticking time bomb. Somehow we got so concerned on Iran in 2025 and 2026, that it was literally a non-mentioned issue in 2024. Weird how that worked out.




So economic impact…. What do you think MONTHS of a blockade is going to do for oil and the airlines in this country? (Let alone poorer 2nd and 3rd world countries).
Should I pull the video of Trump saying he’d “ bomb the sh!t out of Iran” in 2024? Or th prior 20+ yrs of talking about Iran and nuclear.

it’s kind of like the “Trump is racist” bit after he hung out with Oprah, Jesse Jackson, Whoopi and all the rest who claim he’s racist now. You all forget he’s been the same guy since the 80’s.

The social security issue has been around since I was atleast a teenager, probably much earlier. Same speech, no change, no solution. Hence one of the reasons us conservatives don’t like wasting money on illegals, Somali fraud and useless homeless spending that produces worse results.

Back to Iran Economic Impact

My little app says WTI below $95, markets at all time highs (again), local gas station down $0.10 today and the mall is absolutely packed. Haven’t seen any furlough letters or noticed a/c cancellations yet.

Where do you have WTI today?
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Old 05-09-2026 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by JurgenKlopp
Same keyboard bravado that insisted Saddam was responsible for 9/11. ‘Merica! Btw, poor Bibi. It sucks he’s been so constrained the last 3 years….
Hmmm... that's a new one. I don't think anyone said that. The 9/11 commission said that while Saddam and his government supported other terror networks, that there was not much evidence that they supported Al Qaeda, particularly in the 9/11 attacks.
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Old 05-09-2026 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by ThumbsUp
That is the nature of military service. If the standard is that no one will die in wars, we might as well have let the Germans invade Pearl Harbor. And you are focusing on keeping the SoH open. We need to finish the campaign that we started. Take the shackles of Israel and use some of the stockpile of Mk-82s we have.
people don’t balk at dying in wars, they just want that war be relevant to the United States. I didn’t sign up to die for Israel.
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Old 05-09-2026 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by ThumbsUp
That is the nature of military service. If the standard is that no one will die in wars, we might as well have let the Germans invade Pearl Harbor. And you are focusing on keeping the SoH open. We need to finish the campaign that we started. Take the shackles of Israel and use some of the stockpile of Mk-82s we have.
And if we were actually invaded/threatened/attacked in the first place, this would make sense.
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Old 05-09-2026 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by dmeg13021
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You mean we still haven't eclipsed Biden's withdrawal Afghanistan? How many of those 13 from the current conflict were from enemy hostile acts?
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