and what difference does it even make? Mullahs, bad men. No other way around it. No nukes for you!

Excargodog strikes me as someone who last set a parking brake a long time ago.

what’s a parking brake?

You guess wrong.

Nope, Been awhile since I was in a SCIF but I’ve set a few parking brakes recently.

SecDef has been spewing all sorts of religious justification for this war. Yesterday he literally quoted a fake biblical passage from Pulp Fiction in front of a high ranking military audience. “Ezekiel 25:17”. 😂

So the straight is open, and oil is dropping....

Am I furloughed yet?

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I hadn’t thought of it, but it is pretty fitting.

😅😅😅 Do you even look at what you post? Your time window is for the past 5 days.

Call me when jet fuel isn't 80% higher than it was before the start of all this. And when tanker traffic on the Gulf actually starts to move again. And when the price of an actual, delivered barrel of oil resumes its usual correlation with the quoted price of a barrel on the open market (currently the two are very far apart from each other).

Ignores data when it is inconvenient to your narrative.

I or you or anyone can pull data to prove any narrative, depending on the data we choose and the date range of that data. A 5 day time window is completely meaningless and you know it.

Seriously? Are you trying to convince me that a drop in oil price of over $10 a barrel in ONE DAY is not GOOD NEWS? On an airline pilot forum?

just how much of a drop in oil prices would it take for you to believe it is good news?

Yes he does.

As does the party he supports. Both sides do it but one side does it way more then the other, his side. What is a woman amirite?

I am still waiting on the data on why we actually went to war.

So you are saying this new high doesn’t REALLY affect my 401k?

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I beg to differ.

It doesn't matter with you guys anymore as you ignore fact and spin statements. No matter what it said you will spin it as a folly even-though by all metrics it is shaping up to be a monumental success that will stabilize the middle east for decades to come.

Still waiting for that $150 a barrel that y'all promised by the end of March, wake me up when that happens

The Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor so Congress declared war on them. Then Germany and Italy - the other two members of the Axis - declared war on us in keeping with their mutual defense pact with Japan. Then Congress declared war on them.

Pretty much everything since then (1942) have been “police actions” since Congress has reneged on their duty to be the ones declaring war ever since and delegated it to the Executive branch for all practical purposes.

So perhaps your question ought to be addressed to Congress who is constitutionally obligated to be the war declarers.

So you're upset that congress isn't getting us into more wars?

Please explain “monumental success”. What exactly is it you think we have accomplished with this war? Genuinely curious.

You sound mad bro. Never seen so many people root against the United States of America just so they can say they were right. Huge success with minimal loss (I think the casualty count still hasn't exceeded what we suffered in a single day during one of the worst blundered military operations in history, the Afghan withdrawal). Why that angers people like you will be something that will be studied for decades to come. What a strange time we live in.

Not mad at all “bro”. Not sure how you got that from my post but by all means, continue to paint with whatever broad brush helps you sleep at night. I think it’s a reasonable question to ask what exactly we have accomplished with this foray. Apparently you don’t really have any answers and have therefore chosen to fall back on your tried and true straw man arguments. Noted.

special military operation

FIFY

Accomplished what? Indeed. Cavalier question given the conflict scale and complexity. Far too soon for any projections or finalized assessment. Knock on effects are sure to follow. Severity unknown.

The stock market rebound is great. The fact that you think the oil futures pricing is what anyone is paying right now or for at least the next few months is hilarious.

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/mar...war-rcna332321

Sure. But due to the very deep (and very deliberate) integration of IRGC into all aspects of government and economy, it's hard for moderates/liberals to gain any real traction.

I don't think that waiting for the moderates to take over was ever a viable strategy (we were actually kind of waiting and hoping back in the day when I was involved, but nothing has really changed over the years).

For the same reason I think that shooting for or talking about regime change in this conflict is a fool's errand.

It is very different and very salient. The entire DPRK system revolves around the boss, including the divinity aspect.

In IR, the system revolves around a doctrine that is somewhat open to interpretation, and the leaders are consider stewards of the cause. They are not prophets or divine, and thus need to keep the fanatics happy with their diligence and stewardship. The IRGC et al is a monster that the regime created and now needs to keep fed.

Not that I've ever see. If there are fringe sects (probably safe to assume), they are not running the military or government. Religion was never really present in my decades of military service (well maybe at the USAFA, heard that was a thing at one point).

Yes. They are not advocating for apocalypse or genocide. Of course I'd rather they not even go there but I suspect they're just playing to part of the base. Again I didn't vote for any of this.

Again, what do you think oil is trading for TODAY? When do you think it will actually be selling for $90/BBL? When do you think it will be back to what we were paying before this whole debacle started?

Cherrypicking data from *individual days* to make a point.... Shirley you can't be serious.

Huge success? You know what happens next? Iran and Pakistan become very good friends.

Thats all we have accomplished.

It doesn’t mean I’m unpatriotic…I just know how this ends.

You are attracted to strong personalities and hate liberals , I get that. What you need is someone strong to follow. Kind of like the song Opiate.

Security for Israel in the Middle East Holy War caused by post WWI GB Imperialism.

Insert George W. With mission accomplished.

I’ve lived long enough to know this isn’t over and the reasons for doing all this is extremely questionable. It’s a victory for mankind that there is no fighting so yes we celebrate anything of that sort. And we at the airlines celebrate the reduced prospect of fuel shortages. I’ll celebrate the B.S. artist if you need me to for the gratitude of having peace, again

George Bush never claimed the war was "mission accomplished". The sign was never supposed to be there and wasn't coordinated by his people. The sign was put up by the ship to commemorate their latest deployment which was the longest ever deployment by a nuclear powered Aircraft Carrier in history.

Let me know when it gets to $150 a barrel by the end of March or whatever.

Still paying interest on that nut. Trillion or so. Half dozen in service flat tops will only get us so far.

Try two or three and another trillion for this one. After a while the trillions really start to add up.

So what’s happening TODAY isn’t important? And when I posted a five year chart - showing that oil prices in a prior administration actually peaked ABOVE - and were sustained far longer than - the prices hit during this administration - even uncorrected for inflation which would have looked even worse) people b!tched about that too…

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I am becoming convinced that a distressing number of people - like you - just don’t like facts, unless, of course, they reinforce your prejudices. But facts aren’t like that. This is the data. Denying reality does not change reality.

So... is everyone happy now that it looks to be over?

Looks like an enormous win.

:)

I don't know how this ends. But I would not be surprised at all if they end up as good friends. Since they already are, and always have been good friends (with a few minor disagreements along the way).

If Israel can be happy with Iran joining the world economy, and selling unsanctioned oil its a big win.

The Sunnis joined the world economy decades ago and got wealthy and made peace with Israel.

Hopefully the Shias can.

If Venezuela oil and Iran oil can can increase production over the next two years Trump will have the leverage to sanction the snot out of Russia oil and put pressure on them to withdraw from Ukraine.

Exactly, the problem is Pakistan already has nukes….

This war is a complete waste of time.