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AAdvocate 05-02-2026 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 4029417)
Iran will ride this out longer than the will of the American people to ride this out.

Only because of people like you

METO Guido 05-02-2026 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by AAdvocate (Post 4030580)
Only because of people like you

Unfair, inaccurate that. This is major dick up. One for which the reigning admin will not be forgotten or forgiven.


AAdvocate 05-02-2026 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by Turbosina (Post 4029473)
The only reason the most dire predictions about tariffs didn't come true, is because the actual tariffs implemented were drastically less than those announced on "Liberation Day" (and now we're at 15 percent). If the tariffs initially announced at 50 -- 100 pct had been implemented as promised, we would be looking at a very different economy right now. But it's impossible to prove a negative...

Correction, you mean that the threat of high tariffs caused the other countries to come to the table to negotiate deals hence no longer the need for 50 to 100% tariffs.

AAdvocate 05-02-2026 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by khergan (Post 4029539)
It's all performative. There wasn't a word about any of this when the Obama administration was bombing the Libyans into the stone age, or when there was total collapse in that country, resulting in open-air slave markets.

Don't forget the Devastation that Obama did in the Horn of Africa, Mali, Yemen, Syria, Afghanistan, and Iraq. We were busy as bees working in the JOC when Obama was in charge. We were literally dropping bombs as fast as we could produce them.

Obama to Trump: "Hold my beer". freaken hypocrite

Clearedtocross 05-02-2026 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna (Post 4030562)
It seems like the Ayatollah's greatest trick was convincing the idiots he didn’t exist.




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Everyone knew he existed, even the “idiots”. Starting a war with no clear goals, no measures for progress, without thinking thru the ramifications, and no exit strategy - now that’s the greatest trick of all. We sure are doing a lot of bombing all across the globe. What happened to no new wars?

AAdvocate 05-02-2026 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by Name User (Post 4029643)
https://i.ibb.co/qLrB47ZN/image.png

Weird, I don't see Iraq or Afghanistan on that list.

Where was AQ based and who was protecting them, even after 9/11? Radical Islamist organizations recruit from many Islamic countries.

rickair7777 05-02-2026 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by METO Guido (Post 4030583)
This is major dick up. One for which the reigning admin will not be forgotten or forgiven.

You over-estimate the voters. If he can somehow pull this out in a few weeks, and oil prices settle down over the next few months voters might actually forget and move on to other things. But time is running out for sure. Not really sure Trump cares though, HE is not on the ballot. Although if he loses the senate he could end up dealing with impeachment fun (senate flipping is still a long shot based on fundamentals in the possible swing state).

Extenda 05-02-2026 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 4030603)
You over-estimate the voters. If he can somehow pull this out in a few weeks, and oil prices settle down over the next few months voters might actually forget and move on to other things. But time is running out for sure. Not really sure Trump cares though, HE is not on the ballot. Although if he loses the senate he could end up dealing with impeachment fun (senate flipping is still a long shot based on fundamentals in the possible swing state).

You’re forgetting one crucial factor though…the DNCs amazing ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory…

METO Guido 05-02-2026 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 4030603)
You over-estimate the voters. If he can somehow pull this out in a few weeks, and oil prices settle down over the next few months voters might actually forget and move on to other things. But time is running out for sure. Not really sure Trump cares though, HE is not on the ballot. Although if he loses the senate he could end up dealing with impeachment fun (senate flipping is still a long shot based on fundamentals in the possible swing state).

not to object but…luvs nothing more than brag how superhero hung he is. Planted a horseshoe all 285lbs worth on it proper this time.


Trip7 05-02-2026 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 4030603)
You over-estimate the voters. If he can somehow pull this out in a few weeks, and oil prices settle down over the next few months voters might actually forget and move on to other things. But time is running out for sure. Not really sure Trump cares though, HE is not on the ballot. Although if he loses the senate he could end up dealing with impeachment fun (senate flipping is still a long shot based on fundamentals in the possible swing state).

Oil futures prices might settle down but it will take awhile for Diesel and jet fuel to settle down. November is already toast

Excargodog 05-02-2026 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 4030603)
Although if he loses the senate he could end up dealing with impeachment fun (senate flipping is still a long shot based on fundamentals in the possible swing state).

I think the two bogus impeachments his first term so devalued impeachment by a partisan House majority that he doesn’t even mind going for the hat trick. And even if the opposition takes the Senate, the likelihood of them getting the 67 votes needed to actually CONVICT is pretty near negligible. He’d have to lose 16-17 seats out of the 20 up for a vote and have every Dem senator voting against him. Not impossible but extremely unlikely. And then what? JD Vance finishes out his term?

And the recent SCOTUS decision essentially outlawing majority-minority districts (which account for at least 69 House districts) makes even getting a majority in the House voting against him difficult and keeping that majority in 2028 even more problematic.

METO Guido 05-02-2026 06:20 PM

‘26 district map shift/impact unknown at this time…


“I don’t think it’s going to be a huge change for most districts in 2026,” says Justin Levitt, a former Justice Department civil rights official during the Obama administration. In addition to the legal legwork, state legislators could face resistance from incumbents in their own party who are already campaigning in their current districts. “There are legal and political reasons to think that the 2026 cycle is more or less locked in,” says Professor Levitt, who now teaches law at Loyola Marymount University in California.

rickair7777 05-02-2026 08:10 PM


Originally Posted by METO Guido (Post 4030905)
‘26 district map shift/impact unknown at this time…

Yes, wouldn't bet on it for 2026.

rickair7777 05-02-2026 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by Extenda (Post 4030606)
You’re forgetting one crucial factor though…the DNCs amazing ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory…

They are in disarray, if you follow such things. If they want to ride the pendulum they need to coalesce around something other than Trump, like policies. That don't involve dying on 80/20 hills.

vaksedtothemax 05-02-2026 08:22 PM

Shyguy probably still doesn’t know who built the cages at the border.

vaksedtothemax 05-02-2026 08:30 PM


Originally Posted by AAdvocate (Post 4030599)
Where was AQ based and who was protecting them, even after 9/11? Radical Islamist organizations recruit from many Islamic countries.

I have a non pilot Liberal Minnesota University taught friend who’s been using this same “Saudi Arabia” terrorist talking point for years.

not sure where they got it or why they think it’s some gotcha, but my buddy does the exact same thing.

vaksedtothemax 05-02-2026 08:50 PM


Originally Posted by Ice Bear (Post 4030390)
Said it before, will say it again. This 61-day unapproved war/conflict/adventure is Stoopid with two O's. Legality aside, everyone enjoy their gas prices. Spirit is one domino. Genuinely hoping that and Jet A miss the rest.

remind us again why Spirit went bankrupt twice this year and wasn’t allowed to merge?

BlueScholar 05-02-2026 09:03 PM


Originally Posted by vaksedtothemax (Post 4030956)
remind us again why Spirit went bankrupt twice this year and wasn’t allowed to merge?

Because Spirit’s CEO testified that they didn’t need the merger to survive, and Jet Blue testified that this would reduce competition and raise prices. That’s exactly what antitrust laws are designed to prevent.

If either executive testified differently it is very likely the outcome would have been different.

AAdvocate 05-03-2026 05:31 AM


Originally Posted by BlueScholar (Post 4030958)
Because Spirit’s CEO testified that they didn’t need the merger to survive, and Jet Blue testified that this would reduce competition and raise prices. That’s exactly what antitrust laws are designed to prevent.

If either executive testified differently it is very likely the outcome would have been different.

Doubt it, the Biden administration wanted it blocked so it was going to be blocked no matter what. Just the fact the lawsuit was brought was the nail in the coffin.

rickair7777 05-03-2026 06:24 AM

WSJ this morning...

The jet-fuel crisis is turning into a disaster for airlines.


Spirit’s demise is a silver lining for the airlines it competes with. Rivals will backfill some of the vacuum Spirit’s absence leaves behind—JetBlue immediately announced 11 new destinations from Fort Lauderdale, Fla. Analysts have said that Spirit’s closure will take unprofitable flying out of the market, giving the remaining airlines more pricing power.

rickair7777 05-03-2026 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by BlueScholar (Post 4030958)
Because Spirit’s CEO testified that they didn’t need the merger to survive, and Jet Blue testified that this would reduce competition and raise prices. That’s exactly what antitrust laws are designed to prevent.

If either executive testified differently it is very likely the outcome would have been different.

No it wouldn't have. I agree the Spirit CEO's testimony was dumb. B6 was probably *trying* to get out of the merger at that point.

Essentially any merger of any companies is going to reduce competition... the threshold should be long-term net-benefit (such as survival of a company in a specific niche).

jerryleber 05-03-2026 06:31 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 4031043)
No it wouldn't have.

You have no way of knowing that, but they didn't give the judge much choice, did they?

METO Guido 05-03-2026 06:39 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 4030940)
Yes, wouldn't bet on it for 2026.

Won’t matter much either way. Polemic duck soup imo. Screaming minorities don’t change. But crowds sure do. Once this tap & rack gen begins to turn, it’ll turn hard & fast.

Name User 05-03-2026 06:41 AM


Originally Posted by METO Guido (Post 4031050)
Won’t matter much either way. Polemic duck soup imo. Screaming minorities don’t change. But crowds sure do. Once this tap & rack gen begins to turn, it’ll turn hard & fast.

Did you just have a stroke

Name User 05-03-2026 06:43 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 4031042)
WSJ this morning...

The jet-fuel crisis is turning into a disaster for airlines.


Spirit’s demise is a silver lining for the airlines it competes with. Rivals will backfill some of the vacuum Spirit’s absence leaves behind—JetBlue immediately announced 11 new destinations from Fort Lauderdale, Fla. Analysts have said that Spirit’s closure will take unprofitable flying out of the market, giving the remaining airlines more pricing power.

So how is that a disaster for airlines? I don't understand how the title matches the rest of the paragraph.

METO Guido 05-03-2026 06:51 AM


Originally Posted by Name User (Post 4031051)
Did you just have a stroke

Airliners that operate at a loss. Stroke that. Silent majority v vocal minority. Look it up

OpieTaylor 05-03-2026 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by BlueScholar (Post 4030958)
Because Spirit’s CEO testified that they didn’t need the merger to survive, and Jet Blue testified that this would reduce competition and raise prices. That’s exactly what antitrust laws are designed to prevent.

If either executive testified differently it is very likely the outcome would have been different.

Judges fault, should have asked if they are going to need Ch11 to survive without a merger.

I doubt anyone can purger themselves by not clarifying if avoiding Ch11 to survive is outside the scope of the questioning on survival.

METO Guido 05-03-2026 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by OpieTaylor (Post 4031116)
Judges fault, should have asked if they are going to need Ch11 to survive without a merger.

I doubt anyone can purger themselves by not clarifying if avoiding Ch11 to survive is outside the scope of the questioning on survival.

What’s done is done. The impact of tanker traffic at a standstill. When does that farce go away?

OpieTaylor 05-03-2026 09:56 AM


Originally Posted by METO Guido (Post 4031138)
What’s done is done. The impact of tanker traffic at a standstill. When does that farce go away?

Today as long as we sign a deal saying they can start enriching uranium in 2036, and promise to shoot down Israeli jets attacking them under that threat.

jerryleber 05-03-2026 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by OpieTaylor (Post 4031116)
Judges fault, should have asked if they are going to need Ch11 to survive without a merger.

Cool. Judges cross-examining witnesses.

METO Guido 05-03-2026 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by jerryleber (Post 4031142)
Cool. Judges cross-examining witnesses.

So answer the question. When can we expect this ship to course correct sailor?

Profane Kahuna 05-03-2026 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by Clearedtocross (Post 4030593)
Everyone knew he existed, even the “idiots”. Starting a war with no clear goals, no measures for progress, without thinking thru the ramifications, and no exit strategy - now that’s the greatest trick of all. We sure are doing a lot of bombing all across the globe. What happened to no new wars?



You took a big swing for the fences….. but seem to have swatted your own ball(s).

Tell us…. who started this phase of the conflict?



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METO Guido 05-03-2026 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna (Post 4031220)
Tell us…. who started this phase of the conflict?

We did. No secret. Now what?


Profane Kahuna 05-03-2026 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by METO Guido (Post 4031252)
We did. No secret. Now what?



are you:

1) Jumping into someone else’s conversation?

2) Self identifying as one of the “idiots” I was joking about?

3) Rambling again?



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vaksedtothemax 05-03-2026 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by METO Guido (Post 4031151)
So answer the question. When can we expect this ship to course correct sailor?

I’ve already said in the 61 day June/July timeframe. My prediction, oil will be in the $70’s sometime in June or July. Gas, which is always slower, who knows. In CA it will be slow as molasses to come down because, well, we all know why….. Oklahoma, it’ll be back to the low $2.00 much quicker.


answer this question… when does oil hit $150, furloughs occur and a/c deliveries get cancelled.. that was some of the narrative when this thread started.

vaksedtothemax 05-03-2026 02:33 PM

“U.S. crude oil exports surge to record as tankers flock to Gulf Coast during war.”

CNBC

Congrats to AA for scheduling the first flight to Venezuela in 6+ years.


METO Guido 05-03-2026 02:36 PM


Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna (Post 4031262)
are you:

1) Jumping into someone else’s conversation?

2) Self identifying as one of the “idiots” I was joking about?

3) Rambling again?

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I’m fail to grasp how a court decision rendered 2 years ago concerning an airline merger has any connection to the global impact of a US jet fuel crisis in the ME.

There’s nothing inherently wrong with counterpunch tactics Kahuna. Which is clearly your style. But when the opportunity to exploit an opponent’s weakness presents itself, you do have to throw something. Of your own. What’s the outgoing message champ? I can’t improve unless my challengers do.

METO Guido 05-03-2026 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by vaksedtothemax (Post 4031264)
I’ve already said in the 61 day June/July timeframe. My prediction, oil will be in the $70’s sometime in June or July. Gas, which is always slower, who knows. In CA it will be slow as molasses to come down because, well, we all know why….. Oklahoma, it’ll be back to the low $2.00 much quicker.


answer this question… when does oil hit $150, furloughs occur and a/c deliveries get cancelled.. that was some of the narrative when this thread started.

Thank you. JetA & Diesel are the twin lifelines of transport in the US. Even if tankers pull anchor next week, the opportunity cost for this screwup is yet to be determined.

Profane Kahuna 05-03-2026 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by METO Guido (Post 4031266)
I’m fail to grasp how a court decision rendered 2 years ago concerning an airline merger has any connection to the global impact of a US jet fuel crisis in the ME.

There’s nothing inherently wrong with counterpunch tactics Kahuna. Which is clearly your style. But when the opportunity to exploit an opponent’s weakness presents itself, you do have to throw something. Of your own. What’s the outgoing message champ? I can’t improve unless my challengers do.



I never said anything about a court decision, airline merger, or whatever else it is you are rambling on about here.

If you are having a stroke, please seek medical help.



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vaksedtothemax 05-03-2026 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by METO Guido (Post 4031269)
Thank you. JetA & Diesel are the twin lifelines of transport in the US. Even if tankers pull anchor next week, the opportunity cost for this screwup is yet to be determined.

I can agree the gas we pay and airlines pay won’t come down as dramatically.. never does.

however your sides view is this is the biggest disaster in American history and actually believe there was never a plan. Lose all credibility with that nonsense. We point out every President or potential President has said the same thing for decades and only one actually acted on it, your side dismisses it as make believe.

what you all need to do is make a
prediction and stick to it.. so far your predictions haven’t been accurate so the next game is to move the goal post.

so I ask again… when do you predict this oil hits $150 ( $200 for some on here) when do thefurloughs start and who cancels their a/c. orders? Those were the main predictions from your side.

now we have pilots who watched Too Big To Fail one too many times and think they’re predicting the fall when things are is still pointing upwards.


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