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Originally Posted by word302
(Post 4032311)
Now Trump is giving us cheap energy? You're going to have to show your work on that one.
Maybe I missed type something didn’t think I said anyone was giving you anything. |
Originally Posted by OpieTaylor
(Post 4032309)
Trump can’t be the president forever to help keep energy cheap.
2 months ago we had a president showing you the value of working through his policy’s and trying to keep energy cheap.
Originally Posted by OpieTaylor
(Post 4032312)
Maybe I missed type something didn’t think I said anyone was giving you anything.
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Originally Posted by word302
(Post 4032313)
Well you did edit the first post but I'm not sure what you're trying to say then. How is Trump "helping to keep energy cheap"?
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Originally Posted by Extenda
(Post 4032267)
I think we kind of live in a pilot bubble. Things are good if you have equity, which the majority of Americans don’t. I think you’re being cavalier about the plight of people who live pay check to pay check. They were promised lower prices (prices will never get lower, they’ll just hopefully keep going up at a slower rate).
People are stretched. The increase in gas price and the subsequent inflation it’s going to cause for every other consumer good is going to put even more people over the edge. This is going to be a serious problem for the foreseeable future for many. And yet, the cult members are still loyal instead of calling it out. “No new wars, America First, isolationism.” Since that campaign promise was broken, the voters don’t seem to care. Instead those voters are making every excuse in the book. So, they deserve the economy they have coming. Right? |
Originally Posted by word302
(Post 4032283)
So humor me. If we strike a deal with Iran tomorrow and oil starts flowing again in a week or 2, What will we have that we didn't have 2 months ago? What have we gained here? How is the average American better off after engaging in this endeavor?
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Originally Posted by ThumbsUp
(Post 4032332)
I agree. We need more dead terrorists. Time to crack open the can on GPs and fin kits.
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Originally Posted by word302
(Post 4032335)
I'd hazard to guess we've made more new terrorists with this idiotic **** than we've killed. We are literally the baddies.
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Originally Posted by word302
(Post 4032335)
I'd hazard to guess we've made more new terrorists with this idiotic **** than we've killed. We are literally the baddies.
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Originally Posted by word302
(Post 4032313)
Well you did edit the first post but I'm not sure what you're trying to say then. How is Trump "helping to keep energy cheap"?
I think he got “.gov/alphabet swamp” to “relax” red tape in oil leases and drilling where they could for US domestic production. I think he’s discouraging EV’s and “clean” energy to keep confidence up on “dirty” energy so they don’t feel the market will abandon their cap ex projects. I think he sacked Venezuela “head of state” “illegally” to get the new person to play ball and get their oil off the sanction status I think he tried to make a “peaceful” deal after midnight hammer to get Iran oil off sanction status. I think the goal is for them to crumple and if not then at least agree to reforms to get their oil flowing off sanction and get China paying full price. I think Israel’s is resistance to Iran having an economy with the world is a large obstacle, and a 10 year pause on enrichment is not a long enough pause for them and 1/2 the US. I think UAE is leaving opec because they don’t want to take production cuts on the other side of this and can see their market share is where the expectation is to cut production to make more room for the increased US, Iran, and Venezuela production in the next 3-5 years. |
Originally Posted by ThumbsUp
(Post 4032346)
Damn straight. Should have killed them all 47 years ago, but after Eagle Claw, it took a while to get our act together.
Who is “them all?” |
Originally Posted by ShyGuy
(Post 4032357)
Who is “them all?”
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Originally Posted by OpieTaylor
(Post 4032348)
I think he played ball with MBS, a suspected murder, to increase production, and started refilling the SPR.
I think he got “.gov/alphabet swamp” to “relax” red tape in oil leases and drilling where they could for US domestic production. I think he’s discouraging EV’s and “clean” energy to keep confidence up on “dirty” energy so they don’t feel the market will abandon their cap ex projects. I think he sacked Venezuela “head of state” “illegally” to get the new person to play ball and get their oil off the sanction status I think he tried to make a “peaceful” deal after midnight hammer to get Iran oil off sanction status. I think the goal is for them to crumple and if not then at least agree to reforms to get their oil flowing off sanction and get China paying full price. I think Israel’s is resistance to Iran having an economy with the world is a large obstacle, and a 10 year pause on enrichment is not a long enough pause for them and 1/2 the US. I think UAE is leaving opec because they don’t want to take production cuts on the other side of this and can see their market share is where the expectation is to cut production to make more room for the increased US, Iran, and Venezuela production in the next 3-5 years. |
Originally Posted by ThumbsUp
(Post 4032346)
Damn straight. Should have killed them all 47 years ago, but after Eagle Claw, it took a while to get our act together.
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Originally Posted by word302
(Post 4032365)
Wow dude. You should probably not drink and internet.
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Originally Posted by ThumbsUp
(Post 4032370)
It’s really the only solution, but waiting so long makes it markedly more difficult.
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Originally Posted by ThumbsUp
(Post 4032359)
The terrorist regime in Iran.
Defined as who, exactly, when you say “kill them all?” |
Originally Posted by METO Guido
(Post 4032383)
Yes & no really. Feels like it’s not so much we lost our way as we’ve settled for no way at all. Iow, whatever looks best for next quarter. But you’re quite right of course. There are no pretend wars.Shoot to kill or just save time & fire one off at your little toe right now.
The US now is literally like a Sig P320. |
Originally Posted by ShyGuy
(Post 4032408)
The US now is literally like a Sig P320.
Thumbs has a point. Systematically crush/disrupt rev guard lines of support, command & control functions using every semi-reasonable method proven effective. Don’t stop until terms of no bs settlement are reached. Nobody’s ever going to thank us over this mess. Imperative we don’t leave with them smirking about it. |
Originally Posted by vaksedtothemax
(Post 4032257)
I remember not too long ago when other supply chains were disrupted, stay indoors they said… Democrats said boo about it.. meanwhile used car prices skyrocketed, you couldn’t build a small single door deck for less than $5k, and eggs skyrocketed. How ‘bout those egg prices btw!
where were ya then? Meanwhile, 80% of the worlds oil is still moving, the ME oil is on standby, but somehow y'all think it’ll take years to get that oil to it’s offloading position. You would have some actual credibility if you hadn’t dismissed the 3 yrs of insane prices under Biden, would have called him out for depleting the Strategic Oil Reserves right before the election, or acknowledged the years of high gas prices under the Opressed Obama family. Hell I’m already saving $12k a year on a refi for one of my properties this year. Gas has cost me maybe $200 extra the last 2 months. The math says I’m ahead. So you didn’t like man made supply chain disruptions during COVID? Fair enough. I also thought there were a lot of “own goal” situations playing out at the time. I’ve got to ask: why are you all of a sudden ok with man made supply chain disruptions now? Is it just because there’s someone else in the White House? I’m sure you have some newsmax approved witty comeback in response, but maybe think a minute on what you actually believe here, and the mental gymnastics you’re willing to perform in order to defend your preferred and entirety party endorsed narrative. 🤷♂️ |
Originally Posted by Lowslung
(Post 4032422)
Have to add on:
So you didn’t like man made supply chain disruptions during COVID? Fair enough. I also thought there were a lot of “own goal” situations playing out at the time. I’ve got to ask: why are you all of a sudden ok with man made supply chain disruptions now? Is it just because there’s someone else in the White House? I’m sure you have some newsmax approved witty comeback in response, but maybe think a minute on what you actually believe here, and the mental gymnastics you’re willing to perform in order to defend your preferred and entirety party endorsed narrative. 🤷♂️ |
Originally Posted by Bestglide
(Post 4032432)
To answer your question…..if Biden was in the whitehouse and gas prices went up because he wanted to take uranium away from a crazy regime that would most definitely use them, I wouldn’t mind the increase in gas prices at the pump. Under Biden in his first week he closed the keystone pipeline starting the upwards climb in oil/ gas prices to appease the renewable energy crowd.
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Originally Posted by Bestglide
(Post 4032433)
Can you imaging how high oil prices could go if Iran gets a nuclear weapon? They would absolutely control and tax the straight of Hormuz and there would be nothing we could do about it except complain and wonder how this happened.
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
(Post 4032407)
Defined as who, exactly, when you say “kill them all?”
(Is that what you are hoping to bait somebody into saying?) |
Originally Posted by word302
(Post 4032283)
So humor me. If we strike a deal with Iran tomorrow and oil starts flowing again in a week or 2, What will we have that we didn't have 2 months ago? What have we gained here? How is the average American better off after engaging in this endeavor?
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Originally Posted by word302
(Post 4032286)
He loves to make every topic about the pandemic and ignore that crazy inflation was a worldwide phenomenon. I guess Biden controlled the world economy, and here I thought he was just a drooling old grandpa.
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Originally Posted by METO Guido
(Post 4032319)
renaming PBI after him btw. Don’t know when I’ve been so proud:)
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Originally Posted by word302
(Post 4032335)
I'd hazard to guess we've made more new terrorists with this idiotic **** than we've killed. We are literally the baddies.
Lesson learned? You can't sit back on your laurels, you have to be proactive against radicalism. |
Originally Posted by ShyGuy
(Post 4032407)
Defined as who, exactly, when you say “kill them all?”
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Originally Posted by METO Guido
(Post 4032383)
Yes & no really. Feels like it’s not so much we lost our way as we’ve settled for no way at all. Iow, whatever looks best for next quarter. But you’re quite right of course. There are no pretend wars.Shoot to kill or just save time & fire one off at your little toe right now.
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Originally Posted by AAdvocate
(Post 4032465)
lol, he is trolling you guys. So easy to trigger and so joyful to watch your meltdowns.
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Originally Posted by Lowslung
(Post 4032422)
Have to add on:
So you didn’t like man made supply chain disruptions during COVID? Fair enough. I also thought there were a lot of “own goal” situations playing out at the time. I’ve got to ask: why are you all of a sudden ok with man made supply chain disruptions now? Is it just because there’s someone else in the White House? I’m sure you have some newsmax approved witty comeback in response, but maybe think a minute on what you actually believe here, and the mental gymnastics you’re willing to perform in order to defend your preferred and entirety party endorsed narrative. 🤷♂️ |
Originally Posted by METO Guido
(Post 4032472)
If you say so. I think the name alone has become a metaphor ‘wtf has he done now.’
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Originally Posted by AAdvocate
(Post 4032471)
What exactly was "our way" Under Biden, Obama, or GWB that worked so well and how well did it work?
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Originally Posted by METO Guido
(Post 4032476)
This started with Vietnam. Short memory cuts both ways.
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Originally Posted by word302
(Post 4032283)
So humor me. If we strike a deal with Iran tomorrow and oil starts flowing again in a week or 2, What will we have that we didn't have 2 months ago? What have we gained here? How is the average American better off after engaging in this endeavor?
to think that this was a bunch of bombing, a shut down of the SoH, and when it’s done the US won’t have gained anything is just typical media narrative type talking points. listen to Marco Rubio talk from the Press Secretaries podium yesterday. He explained it perfectly. Iran with nuclear is way worse than 60 days of a barely war. When was the last time we even launched a missile or had a meaningful offensive attack? this “war” lasted a few weeks, and the last few weeks have been spent in a standstill. It was/is barely a war, how much of an offensive attack did Iran perform? We lost 13 soldiers, half of which died in a refueling operation as I understand it. ( still of course never good to lose soldiers). Remind me how often CNN posted a gas price tracker during the Biden years? |
Originally Posted by AAdvocate
(Post 4032475)
Always sooo shocked and aghast, just like the ladies on the View. u mad bro?
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Originally Posted by word302
(Post 4032313)
Well you did edit the first post but I'm not sure what you're trying to say then. How is Trump "helping to keep energy cheap"?
I know during the last year I was paying significantly less and saved much more on gas than under Biden… So in reality, still ahead. Eggs too. Remember that media talking point after Biden culled millions of chickens? It was Trumps fault… I eat alot of eggs and have saved a bunch. #win |
Originally Posted by METO Guido
(Post 4032480)
Alarmed more to the point. But in general, yes. Miscalculations this big & foreseeable pi$$ me off.
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Originally Posted by AAdvocate
(Post 4032482)
After 14 years of Trump you still get alarmed from his style? Bless your heart.
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Originally Posted by AAdvocate
(Post 4032474)
Supply chain disruptions right now are caused by stopping a terrorist regime from finishing their nuclear weapon program.
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