Economic Impacts of Iran War
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That’s the cost of being the dominant global power and having the most powerful and capable navy in the world. Do you really want China policing shipping lanes? We took on the role of policing the seas from the Royal Navy after World War II, and you can still see the remnants of that system today with the Strait of Gibraltar.
You can argue others should contribute more, and they probably should, but we don’t ensure free trade out of the kindness of our hearts. It’s the price of maintaining a system that benefits us more than anyone else. Between China, Japan, South Korea, and India, we do nearly $1 trillion in trade, it’s 100% in our interest to ensure that oil keeps flowing.
Iran has already signaled it wants oil traded through the Strait of Hormuz tied to the yuan and is effectively charging a “toll” for passage in yuan. That was a very deliberate choice, and meant to hurt the US as much as possible.
That said, we've backed ourselves into this corner with Iran. The physical and economic damage is done. We’re quickly leaving ourselves with very few options.
You can argue others should contribute more, and they probably should, but we don’t ensure free trade out of the kindness of our hearts. It’s the price of maintaining a system that benefits us more than anyone else. Between China, Japan, South Korea, and India, we do nearly $1 trillion in trade, it’s 100% in our interest to ensure that oil keeps flowing.
Iran has already signaled it wants oil traded through the Strait of Hormuz tied to the yuan and is effectively charging a “toll” for passage in yuan. That was a very deliberate choice, and meant to hurt the US as much as possible.
That said, we've backed ourselves into this corner with Iran. The physical and economic damage is done. We’re quickly leaving ourselves with very few options.
#472
$852.45 billion?
and supplementals will likely take it well over a trillion since Iran has burned up about $200 billion in ordnance.
Time for THE REST OF THE WORLD that ALSO benefits from world oceanic trade to pony up.
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All of that is really difficult to condense into a catchy soundbite though, so we end up with a bunch of Americans who are too lazy to read anything thinking that it’ll all get worked out in a couple weeks. Markets are not factoring real world events folks. We’re in for a tough next few years IMO. Hope I’m wrong.
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All of that is really difficult to condense into a catchy soundbite though, so we end up with a bunch of Americans who are too lazy to read anything thinking that it’ll all get worked out in a couple weeks. Markets are not factoring real world events folks. We’re in for a tough next few years IMO. Hope I’m wrong.
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So, should I be buying oil futures on the CME? The Mar 27 CL contract (CLH7) can be had for $74. Back up the dump truck....it's like taking candy from a baby especially if this is only gonna get worse and take years to recover. What fools those commodity traders are!
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If some folks believe (I have serious reservations) that this event will be over and stability will prevail within a relatively short time frame, that would tend to drive oil prices down. Ultimately lower than historical norms.
There are some fringe benefits to this conflict, if it can pulled off successfully.
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Well, you doom and gloom guys have a chance to make a real killing if you are right:
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Rigzone Staff
| Friday, March 27, 2026 | 11:38 AM EST

Executives from oil and gas firms have revealed where they expect the WTI crude oil price to be at various points in the future in the first quarter Dallas Fed Energy Survey.
Image by Afry Harvy via iStockExecutives from oil and gas firms have revealed where they expect the West Texas Intermediate (WTI) crude oil price to be at various points in the future in the first quarter Dallas Fed Energy Survey, which was released this week.
The survey asked participants what they expect WTI prices to be in six months, one year, two years, and five years. Executives from 116 oil and gas firms answered this question and gave a mean response of $78 per barrel for the six month mark, $73 per barrel for the year and two year marks, and $79 per barrel for the five year mark, the survey showed.
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Execs Predict What Price WTI Oil Will Hit in Future
by Andreas Exarheas|
Rigzone Staff
| Friday, March 27, 2026 | 11:38 AM EST

Executives from oil and gas firms have revealed where they expect the WTI crude oil price to be at various points in the future in the first quarter Dallas Fed Energy Survey.
Image by Afry Harvy via iStockExecutives from oil and gas firms have revealed where they expect the West Texas Intermediate (WTI) crude oil price to be at various points in the future in the first quarter Dallas Fed Energy Survey, which was released this week.
The survey asked participants what they expect WTI prices to be in six months, one year, two years, and five years. Executives from 116 oil and gas firms answered this question and gave a mean response of $78 per barrel for the six month mark, $73 per barrel for the year and two year marks, and $79 per barrel for the five year mark, the survey showed.

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#478
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My hunch is governments are moving the market, keeping it calm, similar to what happened during covid.
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1. The US escalate, full land invasion, it costs us a couple trillion but oil prices come back down.
2. Status quo stalemate of Iran getting bombed, and Iran keeping up enough pressure to keep the US and it's allies from receiving oil, oil stays high for a long period of time, still costs us a trillion in rearmament costs.
3. Trump walks back almost all of his demands and is forced to be a security guarantor that Israel won't bomb them again.
All are bad. The scariest thing in all of this is having just spent so much of our ammunition there leaves Taiwan open to an invasion by China. Oil prices stay high, the West loses it's semiconductor manufacturer, and the US loses it's place as the dominant player in the world.
I'm really hoping I'm wrong, I'm far from immune from that, only a few people truly know what's going on behind closed doors here, but from where I'm sitting this looks like the biggest blunder in US foreign policy possibly in the countries history. I know, I know, I have TDS, but I just don't see another outcome. I would be happy to be pointed to a way in which this clears up better though.
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6 months seems pretty optimistic. Given the hits that energy infrastructure has taken I'd be shocked if that were the case. I only see this going one if three general ways.
1. The US escalate, full land invasion, it costs us a couple trillion but oil prices come back down.
2. Status quo stalemate of Iran getting bombed, and Iran keeping up enough pressure to keep the US and it's allies from receiving oil, oil stays high for a long period of time, still costs us a trillion in rearmament costs.
3. Trump walks back almost all of his demands and is forced to be a security guarantor that Israel won't bomb them again.
All are bad. The scariest thing in all of this is having just spent so much of our ammunition there leaves Taiwan open to an invasion by China. Oil prices stay high, the West loses it's semiconductor manufacturer, and the US loses it's place as the dominant player in the world.
I'm really hoping I'm wrong, I'm far from immune from that, only a few people truly know what's going on behind closed doors here, but from where I'm sitting this looks like the biggest blunder in US foreign policy possibly in the countries history. I know, I know, I have TDS, but I just don't see another outcome. I would be happy to be pointed to a way in which this clears up better though.
1. The US escalate, full land invasion, it costs us a couple trillion but oil prices come back down.
2. Status quo stalemate of Iran getting bombed, and Iran keeping up enough pressure to keep the US and it's allies from receiving oil, oil stays high for a long period of time, still costs us a trillion in rearmament costs.
3. Trump walks back almost all of his demands and is forced to be a security guarantor that Israel won't bomb them again.
All are bad. The scariest thing in all of this is having just spent so much of our ammunition there leaves Taiwan open to an invasion by China. Oil prices stay high, the West loses it's semiconductor manufacturer, and the US loses it's place as the dominant player in the world.
I'm really hoping I'm wrong, I'm far from immune from that, only a few people truly know what's going on behind closed doors here, but from where I'm sitting this looks like the biggest blunder in US foreign policy possibly in the countries history. I know, I know, I have TDS, but I just don't see another outcome. I would be happy to be pointed to a way in which this clears up better though.
I’m not going to debate any of this with you, I’m just stating the facts today:
The futures markets are discounting very high future oil costs and the experts are discounting very high future oil costs, if you think they are wrong you can certainly bid against them and if you ARE right, you can make a killing on the crude oil futures exchange.
Of course if you are wrong, like Randolph and Mortimer, you are going to lose big.
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But then talk is cheap, actually putting your money where your doom and gloom is might cost you a bundle. But if you are smarter than current traders and advisors, go for it.
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