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Old 04-07-2026 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by SampsonSimpson
Sorry quoted wrong message…that’s always AAs MO.

Civilians surrounding power plants and stretching across bridges…sounds like it’s Taco Tuesday. I hope it is anyway.
Hmm

Talk the talk….put up or shut up….time for the show..this is it.

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Old 04-07-2026 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Frankly he was in jeopardy of going to domestic prison if he hadn't won in 2024.
So, that's not awesome.
Originally Posted by Turbosina
The only ways to actually destroy the current Iranian government would be a full scale ground invasion (and a quagmire that would make Iraq look pleasant), or we launch a nuclear first strike, with the very real possibility of igniting World War 3.
Originally Posted by rickair7777
The US prefers that, as hot it as it is over there, that the temperature remains below Five Million Celsius.

I don't know what trumps motive to do this was, and my guesses would not be charitable, but it is at least possible that IL felt existentially froggy and was threatening to take matters into their own hands. If that turns out to be the case, then trump did the right thing. Better some prime-time CSAR drama and an oil price spike, than nukes popping off.

The nuclear genie isn't sealed in his bottle, but he's kind of hiding in the neck. Once he gets out again, we'll probably be in a new era for geopolitics and security. There many different ways that could go down, but I suspect most of them are bad (compared to the current status quo).
And yet that same dude, who this morning said about Iran that, "A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back," is now forcing us to have very real conversations about a few hundred kilotons in Tehran. What are we doing, here? I recognize tonight will probably be a nothingburger, but I find the very small chance of a nuke or three upsetting. rick, I respect the hell out of you, and it's clear you have a military resume that'd make most men blush. Talk me off the ledge, here. Is our Commander in Chief gonna be chill?

Edit: It is in fact TACO Tuesday, but this is not rational world leader behavior. The fact that these conversations are being had remains, and so too does my question.

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Old 04-07-2026 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Ice Bear
So, that's not awesome.
And yet that same dude, who this morning said about Iran that, "A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back," is now forcing us to have very real conversations about a few hundred kilotons in Tehran. What are we doing, here? I recognize tonight will probably be a nothingburger, but I find the very small chance of a nuke or three upsetting. rick, I respect the hell out of you, and it's clear you have a military resume that'd make most men blush. Talk me off the ledge, here. Is our Commander in Chief gonna be chill?
You still haven't learned to never take Trump literally, but always take him seriously?
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Old 04-07-2026 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
You still haven't learned to never take Trump literally, but always take him seriously?
I mean, he kidnapped the Venezuelan Head of State. He started a war with Iran. He assassinated the Ayatollah. There are many, many other things we could get into – is it really so unbelievable, with as many Yes Men as he has around him, that he'd push the button?
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Old 04-07-2026 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
You still haven't learned to never take Trump literally, but always take him seriously?
Everyone turned in after a jive Sat night, Oahu Dec 6, ‘41. Less than 6 hours later, a different dawn all over the planet. If not now, it’s chugging right at us just up the tracks.
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Old 04-07-2026 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueScholar
Right, it's pearl clutching when the President of the United States casually threatens genocide to win over the hearts and minds of the Iranian people only a day after making unhinged posts on Easter Sunday. Just another average week in the "greatest" country in the world. Don't worry, the war is won!!! Ignore the fact that we're begging for help from our spurned allies who are laughing at you, and we have complete military dominance of the area but the strong man is pleading with Iran to let oil tankers through the SOH. We're buying oil from Russia and then allowing Iran to sell their oil to keep the global economy on the rails, but it's all part of the master plan!!! 3D Chess baby!!!
if you really believed 90 million were gonna be dead, you may want to reconsider the psych evaluation you took to get here.

I saw the “threatening to drop a nuke” talk on MS.Now today also from some congressthems.


Other talking points you omitted :25th amendment, war crimes, lunatic…. You’ve got 15 hrs til they are changed to something else.
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Old 04-07-2026 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Ice Bear
I mean, he kidnapped the Venezuelan Head of State. He started a war with Iran. He assassinated the Ayatollah. There are many, many other things we could get into – is it really so unbelievable, with as many Yes Men as he has around him, that he'd push the button?
He did not "kidnap" the Venezuelan Head of State. He arrested an illegitimate dictator.

He did not start the war with Iran. He set out to finish it.... on our terms.

And yes, it's not just unbelievable that he'd "push the button" - it's ridiculous. I truly wish you people would drop the drama class hysterics and theatrics and get serious, normal, pragmatic, and patriotic.
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Old 04-07-2026 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
He did not start the war with Iran. He set out to finish it.... on our terms.
Then who did start the war with Iran and when did they start it?
Old 04-08-2026 | 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
He did not "kidnap" the Venezuelan Head of State. He arrested an illegitimate dictator.

He did not start the war with Iran. He set out to finish it.... on our terms.

And yes, it's not just unbelievable that he'd "push the button" - it's ridiculous. I truly wish you people would drop the drama class hysterics and theatrics and get serious, normal, pragmatic, and patriotic.
For profit forever wars with third worlds who pose no threat to America is “patriotic”? Huh

I take it you mean GWB style “patriotic“, not founding fathers patriotic?
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Old 04-08-2026 | 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
You still haven't learned to never take Trump literally, but always take him seriously?
Problem is, whether he was serious or not, that kind of bluster from any head of state is, in fact, unhinged. Yet the people who surround POTUS will never outrightly tell him that because they’d get fired. The “friendly” media outlets immediately find some way to spin it that says “this isn’t as bad as it sounds….in fact, it’s brilliant….4D chess and such. And the base eagerly eats it all up. A shocking percentage of our countrymen have seemingly lost the ability to identify the absurd.
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