Economic Impacts of Iran War
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There is no crime over which ICC claims jurisdiction, that the US doesn't have some similar legal remedy. Or if there is, there's a reason we don't (ex. some nations have robust "hate speech" laws, which basically apply to whatever dissent their regime wants to silent). We can (and should) try our own citizens. No interest in World Government, thanks.
Right place and right time, he lucked out.
They decided they needed him as a unifying figurehead to help get the people behind the new government. This despite very strong sentiment amongst the allies that he be treated as a war criminal.
It helped his case that his support for the war had been anemic all along, and that he was actively trying to negotiate surrender terms before Hiroshima.
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Trump admitted to a plan to give arms to opposition groups in Iran during the protests. If the US was actively trying to arm them, it's reasonable to assume that CIA/mossad also stoked the anti-regime dissent to the greatest extent possible.
The CIA was also disseminating misinformation to the Iranians to misdirect their efforts to capture the downed WSO. If they were able to disseminate this info among the Iranians during the war, who knows what they were up to during the protests and in the months leading up to the war.
Obviously there was a group they wanted to give the guns to, and the plan failed. I could see promises to be given weapons incentivizing the opposition to resist. Not unreasonable to think that the CIA/mossad were monitoring and most likely meddling in the situation on the ground.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/insig...11&uxmode=ruby
https://www.timesofisrael.com/im-ver...were-diverted/
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Agree. Not a company job. No way.
The enemy simply doesn’t share temporal pursuits as do we and values life less. Much less. But they get terror as trade leverage quite well. Dedicated as any adversary in that regard.
The enemy simply doesn’t share temporal pursuits as do we and values life less. Much less. But they get terror as trade leverage quite well. Dedicated as any adversary in that regard.
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Because it has no jurisdiction over Americans. Although Clinton signed on to the Rome Statute establishing the ICC on the last possible day, after 18 months of saying he wouldn’t, the court at the time did not have enough countries ratifying (60 were required) to go into effect, even had the US Senate approved it p, which they never did. In 2002 President Bush withdrew presidential approval before the 60 country ratification requirement was ever met so there it sits ever since. Nobody can legally extradite any US citizen to the court under US law, making it essentially a kangaroo court for US legal purposes.
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Just because the US has not ratified the treaty for the ICC does not mean the ICC itself is a kangaroo court.
Courts in the UK have no jurisdiction over me as a US citizen. That does not make the UK courts necessarily a kangaroo court.
A kangaroo court operates arbitrarily without regard to due process or the law. The ICC is a flawed institution, but dismissing it as merely a political "kangaroo court" is disingenuous and untrue.
almost sounds like you're describing Israel lol
little bit rich considering the US bombed hundreds of little girls in an egregious and easily avoidable intelligence failure.
maybe ask the people of Gaza how much Israel values human life
Courts in the UK have no jurisdiction over me as a US citizen. That does not make the UK courts necessarily a kangaroo court.
A kangaroo court operates arbitrarily without regard to due process or the law. The ICC is a flawed institution, but dismissing it as merely a political "kangaroo court" is disingenuous and untrue.
almost sounds like you're describing Israel lol
little bit rich considering the US bombed hundreds of little girls in an egregious and easily avoidable intelligence failure.
maybe ask the people of Gaza how much Israel values human life
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Tragic but true. Any enemy who orders a boy hostage executed with an arm already taken, only as some twisted symbol of faith, requires no further explanation. Paying 50% more for a gallon of gas is a very modest short term sacrifice.
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Because Israel has only killed 70,000 civilians instead of killing all 2 million residents of Gaza, they should be commended?
Approximately 450,000 people were liberated from concentration camps in WW2. You must also think that regime valued human life; if they didn't there would not be anyone to ask.
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What does this even mean?
Because Israel has only killed 70,000 civilians instead of killing all 2 million residents of Gaza, they should be commended?
Approximately 450,000 people were liberated from concentration camps in WW2. You must also think that regime valued human life; if they didn't there would not be anyone to ask.
Because Israel has only killed 70,000 civilians instead of killing all 2 million residents of Gaza, they should be commended?
Approximately 450,000 people were liberated from concentration camps in WW2. You must also think that regime valued human life; if they didn't there would not be anyone to ask.
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