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CE750 10-21-2007 07:15 AM
Originally Posted by FliFast (Post 250577)
Fly,

Nice screen name !! How fast is "Fast"

Fli
unless he's in the military and flys a fighter, not as fast as my CE750 :D

Al Aska 10-21-2007 08:23 AM
Originally Posted by CE750 (Post 250529)
I'm a bit disturbed that 1 in 6 members of this forum would deny a Skybus or Virgin America pilot the j/s just because of their employer.. Sad.

1 in 6.. :rolleyes:

What is really sad..... Is the pay at those outfits!!!!!!!!!!

CE750 10-21-2007 08:34 AM
Originally Posted by Al Aska (Post 250661)
What is really sad..... Is the pay at those outfits!!!!!!!!!!
How well did Alaska pay when they were a startup? (ok bad question, as that was the 30's), but how about Southwest. or Airtran, etc?

I frankly think its worse when a well established union from a well established airline votes to accept deep pay cuts, thus re-defining the pay scales of everyone smaller (including startups)..

A start up with lots of promise opens up and tells its workers .. in due time you'll get paid better (and I assume their pilots will expect it), that's not so sad in my book... that's jobs.

So you'd turn away a VX or SX pilot?

Tinpusher007 10-21-2007 01:10 PM
Originally Posted by Al Aska (Post 250661)
What is really sad..... Is the pay at those outfits!!!!!!!!!!
Be that as it may, how are you helping the situation by denying them a ride home or to work? I make a pittance as well and fly a "big RJ". Would you deny me your jumpseat as well?

Pilotpip 10-21-2007 01:51 PM
Originally Posted by Tinpusher007 (Post 250497)
CASS=Cockpit Access Security System. And a question to those who would deny a j/s for say a Gojet pilot? Do you tell them to their face that that is the reason you won't let them ride?
They're usually the ones that get on without telling the crew that they're there.

Originally Posted by Lambourne
I have never denied a jumpseat to scab.......However, when SCABS show up we often are below the allowable O2 limit for the extra person in the cockpit or the belts on the jumpseat look frayed and for safetys sake I better have it deffered.

They have never been denied. The problem is there is never a usable seat. Too bad.
Yeah, this happened here and was a legitamate issue at an outstation. O2 was not high enough for three people up front. GJer whined and the company tried to fire the crew. Funny thing is that nwo GJers are trying to deny TSA pilots jumpseats. Happened to a friend of mine last week. We'll see how well the teamsters protect their jobs...

JSchraub 10-21-2007 01:58 PM
So do you guys travel with a scab list with you? Then when someone comes to use the JS "Hey whats you name? Ok Joe Smith, hold... Nope you're on my list, and not getting on! So long sucker!"

reddog25 10-21-2007 02:50 PM
Originally Posted by JSchraub (Post 250795)
So do you guys travel with a scab list with you? Then when someone comes to use the JS "Hey whats you name? Ok Joe Smith, hold... Nope you're on my list, and not getting on! So long sucker!"
Yes, I have a Scab list with me and if the pilot is with UAL or CAL and I see that they were hired about the strike time, I apologize and tell them I have to check my list. When I determine they are clean I welcome them aboard and invite them to any available seat. If I see that they are on the list, I ask them if that is true (always is) and I ask them to leave my aircraft..............

CE750 10-21-2007 03:05 PM
Originally Posted by JSchraub (Post 250795)
So do you guys travel with a scab list with you? Then when someone comes to use the JS "Hey whats you name? Ok Joe Smith, hold... Nope you're on my list, and not getting on! So long sucker!"
sure, that's how it's been for decades... this denying people with otherwise no union problems the j/s based only on where they work is a new thing, and frankly part of what wrong with this profession (or lack thereof).

FlyingViking 10-21-2007 03:14 PM
Originally Posted by Lambourne (Post 250595)
I have never denied a jumpseat to scab.......However, when SCABS show up we often are below the allowable O2 limit for the extra person in the cockpit or the belts on the jumpseat look frayed and for safetys sake I better have it deffered.

They have never been denied. The problem is there is never a usable seat. Too bad.
A true gentlemans way of solving the issue, I like it.

Al Aska 10-21-2007 04:23 PM
Originally Posted by CE750 (Post 250668)
How well did Alaska pay when they were a startup? (ok bad question, as that was the 30's), but how about Southwest. or Airtran, etc?

I frankly think its worse when a well established union from a well established airline votes to accept deep pay cuts, thus re-defining the pay scales of everyone smaller (including startups)..

Using your pay scales to define everyones pay!!!! Yes it is worse!
Rat bastages!


A start up with lots of promise opens up and tells its workers .. in due time you'll get paid better (and I assume their pilots will expect it), that's not so sad in my book... that's jobs.

I wonder how that is working for Jet Blew??? How long is due time???

So you'd turn away a VX or SX pilot?
Nope! Never said I would!


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