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Al Aska 10-21-2007 04:25 PM


Originally Posted by Tinpusher007 (Post 250767)
Be that as it may, how are you helping the situation by denying them a ride home or to work? I make a pittance as well and fly a "big RJ". Would you deny me your jumpseat as well?


Am I missing something here...... Did I say I would not allow someone????

FlyingDog 10-21-2007 04:48 PM

When you find a scabs name on the list and you ask if it is true - what is the persons reaction when you say you have to leave the aircraft?

CL65driver 10-21-2007 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by JSchraub (Post 250795)
So do you guys travel with a scab list with you? Then when someone comes to use the JS "Hey whats you name? Ok Joe Smith, hold... Nope you're on my list, and not getting on! So long sucker!"

I keep an electronic version on my PDA. Works well. My CA's have denied because of low O2 a few times. ;)

HSLD 10-21-2007 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by FlyingDog (Post 250858)
When you find a scabs name on the list and you ask if it is true - what is the persons reaction when you say you have to leave the aircraft?

"I'm sorry but the jumpseat is not available"

Nothing more is required and it goes for anyone when the jumpseat is not available..

Shrek 10-21-2007 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by whiskerbizkit (Post 250310)
Well, this might be different, but I was jumpseating AFTER being diverted to another base on my last leg. Company would not positive space me home from there, only to my base so I jumpseated from there home ( this was CAL ). The flight was WIDE open ( 35 PAX ) on a 73 with 4 in 1st class. The FA put me in 1st and as we were pushing back, 2 FA'scame to me and said the CA said " if he wants to sit in 1st class, he can pay for it!! " come to find out, hes a scab, NO SCABS in my jumps seat if I have anything to say about it!!!!!!!!!!


Where do you work?! :confused:

JSchraub 10-21-2007 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by CL65driver (Post 250880)
I keep an electronic version on my PDA. Works well. My CA's have denied because of low O2 a few times. ;)


hehe I see.. I just had this mental picture of someone trying to get on and the CA pulling out the huge scroll in front of them and scanning it for a minute till they found the name..

texaspilot76 10-21-2007 06:23 PM

Yall are just awful. Denying a seat to someone that doesnt necessarily support your agenda is wrong. Not everyone has to think the same. Thats why we live in America. I find it very childish that some of you keep a list of people you don't agree with just to punish them for not supporting your ideas. Its like the bullies ganging up on the kid on the playground that is different than them.

AZFlyer 10-21-2007 07:00 PM

How are pilots treated that are simply not part of a union?

Pro-union or find another way home?

Reading all this gives me mixed thoughts about the whole idea of denying scabs a ride. On the one hand, I can understand why a scab would be strongly disliked, as it can be easily argued that scabs helped to bring poorer working environments/pay etc.

But on the other hand I can see the above posters statement as perfectly valid and reasonable. And I would like to think that most everyone could agree with the root of that persons message.

Good thing we're not in Nazi Germany, I guess!

the King 10-21-2007 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by texaspilot76 (Post 250911)
Yall are just awful. Denying a seat to someone that doesnt necessarily support your agenda is wrong. Not everyone has to think the same. Thats why we live in America. I find it very childish that some of you keep a list of people you don't agree with just to punish them for not supporting your ideas. Its like the bullies ganging up on the kid on the playground that is different than them.

Seriously? You understand that a person who crosses that picket line weakens the purpose of the strike right? Considering how hard it is to strike at an airline, do you think they would be there for no good reason. That list is a testament to people who turned their backs on fellow pilots. Stuff like that isn't forgotten and isn't easily forgiven.

REAL Pilot 10-21-2007 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by texaspilot76 (Post 250911)
Its like the bullies ganging up on the kid on the playground that is different than them.

I think its more like the class or group that are "on the same team." Yes, there are always the dorks that volunteer to be class monitors, the ball hogs on the team and the kids that if you don't play their way, they are going home. (i.e. =scab mentality)
vs.
The guys that support the team, share notes, pass gouge, cover for their buddy etc.

I guess it boils down to if you are a team player or just in it for yourself.

Therefore, if you are not on the team then you don't deserve to be treated as if you are.


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