View Poll Results: would you deny the j/s?
Yes I would deny a J/S to a non-scab list pilot.
43
18.53%
No, I would only deny an official scab list pilot.
189
81.47%
Voters: 232. You may not vote on this poll
Denying Jump seat.. a poll.
10-21-2007 | 08:17 PM
#51
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From: 170 babysitter
OMG how dare him!!! I see how it works...it's ok to deny him a jumpseat or any other privilege, but when he returns the favor it's outrageous, and he all of a sudden doesn't have that right. Interesting. If you dish it out, I would be prepared to receive it as well. I'm not pro-union or anti-union, just an observer.
10-21-2007 | 08:32 PM
#52
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I see gojets was mentioned as a scab. yeah i know the story of go jets but it is now an airline that who knows may adopt a union some day. So some 19 yr old kid gets a job because of thier low low mins and hes branded a scab? is that for life?
All the viseral lasting hate towards scabs cant be healthy guys.
All the viseral lasting hate towards scabs cant be healthy guys.
10-21-2007 | 09:43 PM
#53
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From: Burrito Bomber
I have yet to but WILL deny any gojet or "old freedom" pilot.
The issue is not whether they are union, but that they are lending their services to a company soley designed to sell out and undercut other pilots trying to negotiate a fair contract.
The issue is not whether they are union, but that they are lending their services to a company soley designed to sell out and undercut other pilots trying to negotiate a fair contract.
10-21-2007 | 11:34 PM
#54
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From: Nordskog Industries Field Technician
Precisely why I voted 'yes' in this poll. If you are a Go-jetter or original Freedom guy then you can not ride my jumpseat if I am the Captain. End of story. Ask the two Freedom guys I kicked off in Denver when I was at Lakes.
10-22-2007 | 05:44 AM
#55
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10-22-2007 | 06:23 AM
#56
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From: Right Seat
Seriously? You understand that a person who crosses that picket line weakens the purpose of the strike right? Considering how hard it is to strike at an airline, do you think they would be there for no good reason. That list is a testament to people who turned their backs on fellow pilots. Stuff like that isn't forgotten and isn't easily forgiven.
Denying someone a ride just because they work for a company you don't agree with is wrong. Another post in this thread mentions everyone working as a team and helping each other out. Denying someone a ride for reasons stated above is not being a team or helping a fellow pilot. It seems that you can be a member of the team, so long as you support what we want and share our beliefs.
When I move to the left seat, I will not deny a fellow pilot a ride, regardless of who they are employed by. It's all about taking care of each other. I may not agree with their politics, but I will extend my hospitalities.
10-22-2007 | 07:53 AM
#58
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From: Retired
Originally Posted by trunk junk
I see gojets was mentioned as a scab. yeah i know the story of go jets but it is now an airline that who knows may adopt a union some day. So some 19 yr old kid gets a job because of thier low low mins and hes branded a scab? is that for life?
All the viseral lasting hate towards scabs cant be healthy guys.
All the viseral lasting hate towards scabs cant be healthy guys.
If you're dumb enough to go work for somebody without doing your homework on who you are working for then yeah, you're going to get denied a jumpseat. It's not like they're the only one hiring and how are you doing yourself any favors by not finishing school? Do you want to fly for a regional the rest of your life?
You're not doing yourself, or your fellow pilots any good by working for GJ, Skybus, or anybody else that's lowering the pay and bennefit bar.
10-22-2007 | 08:29 AM
#59
Are we there yet??!!
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Maybe that individual is happy in their job.
When I move to the left seat, I will not deny a fellow pilot a ride, regardless of who they are employed by. It's all about taking care of each other. I may not agree with their politics, but I will extend my hospitalities.
When I move to the left seat, I will not deny a fellow pilot a ride, regardless of who they are employed by. It's all about taking care of each other. I may not agree with their politics, but I will extend my hospitalities.
10-22-2007 | 11:53 AM
#60
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Your the weenie. You must be a new hire manager. Capt. authority is not alive and well. So dont lie. The only way a Captain can deny the J/S is to have a SAFETY reason!!! This is what is written from the Company and the FAA.
So the Captain at UPS does not have control of his jumpseat. At this time we are not in Contract Talks- So why is this still written. And why does the FAA still support this language? Read the FAR's. The FAA Counsel has totally disregarded the Reg. And we will win this in the future.
Weenie-
So the Captain at UPS does not have control of his jumpseat. At this time we are not in Contract Talks- So why is this still written. And why does the FAA still support this language? Read the FAR's. The FAA Counsel has totally disregarded the Reg. And we will win this in the future.
Weenie-
I've denied jumpseats since then. No one said anything about it. I haven't, and won't ever give up MY authority. The FAA was absolutely correct in determining that the jumpseat issue was labor related. The regs haven't changed. I still have my authority. I just know when to use it.
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