Al Aska

Its great if you were are on the front side of the boomer wave... You bought a house that cost 50g's... You have it paid off... Your kids college is paid.... Your boat, plane...( ) insert toy, is paid off... Now it is time to STEP OFF! Now if you happen to be on the back side of the wave.... Look out, there is another wave coming...

Ok that was fun!!!

Alpa sold us down the river for 5 more years of Alpa dues at the top wages!! It is always about the cash!

The longer you work the sooner you die thing was a matrix made out for just the people in the flying jobs... I saw it too... Can not remember who did the study... Looked very grim though...

Hope we can get control back befor we hit!

WorkinStiff

So we should all fall on our swords to make you happy?

Al Aska

No, just retire so we can make a living in a much more expensive world! I would hope you would be happy in the after flying life. Do yourself a favor and enjoy what time you have left.

Eric Stratton

do you mean like everyone did before you...by the way the sword hasn't gone anywhere it's still their.

Freightpuppy

1. So I take it you were complaining about the age 60 rule when you were 35? Yeah! Uh huh! Suuuuuuuure.

2. Awwww, I guess we should all kiss your old geezer's feet cuz you were flying when we were babies. Get off your high horse......Christ Almighty! I know, it's all our fault you all have 3 Flight Attendant ex-wives to support and you bought too many toys (toys we'll never get to have). I know, we should just take the hits for your bad judgement. You want me to give you my B plan too Sparky? GMAFB!

dojetdriver

You ever JS with some of those old geezers or listen to their stories? For many, it goes more like this;


No, he then BOUGHT a bigger house when he got a raise as well as a vacation house on Florida, then lost those houses in a divorce, and is STILL paying for it. As well as the attorney fees for his exwife.

No, he had to pay child support as well as college tuition because his exwife that he screwed around on wouldn't go to work. Then, he was DUMB enough to marry a flight attendant the second time around and had kids with her too. She was samart enough to leave him. And now he's paying child support and/or college tuition for them too.

Yep, but the problem is, see above. The idiot is upside down on his balance sheet. Lots of assets, but too wrapped up in debt.

Freightpuppy

dojet.
Funny stuff.

A buddy of mine used to work at Skywest and commuted on Delta. The guy was making $19/hr, he'd be sitting in the j/s and the Delta pilots would be complaining on how they have to sell their 2nd house now. waaaaaa!
Now, same friend is at UPS (on first year pay) and told me some FE was going on and on about how he is broke. He later went on to talk about his 3 airplanes, sports car, etc. I just wish some people would have a little discretion.

Al Aska

dojet

Good one!

dojetdriver

Was it Kit Darby that was quoted as having to sell his BMW M3 when the paycuts at UAL came? Christ, an M3 is expensive, but not THAT expensive. Especially when both you AND your wife fly for UAL, even with the pay cut.

Oh the agony, the horror.

You going to the Maiden show in LA in January or what?

WorkinStiff

If you can't make a living find something else to do. YOU chose this profession. I guess you and the other whiners on this forum are special. You are the only ones in the industry who have ever had to struggle and sacrifice. Now, let me make sure I understand this. You are demanding that pilots who have also struggled and sacrificed to get to where they are today to just quit, so you can find happiness and success?

Do you actually think that you are the only ones who have had to fly for sub standard wages, commute hundreds of miles to work, live in a crappy crash pad with 20 other pilots, never be home with your families and friends and work just about every holiday?

How about watching your airline being bought or merged with another airline, losing your seniority and eventually your job as a result? Having to start all over at the bottom of someone else's seniority list at first year pay, knowing that all of this could happen again?

This industry has been like this since it was started. Yeah, 9/11 threw a monkey wrench into the works and made it really hard. So did deregulation in the 80's which resulted in bankruptcy for several airlines and the loss of a lot of pilot jobs. Some chose to stick it out, coped, found other jobs and started all over again. Many chose not to and found other ways to make a living. The cycle will continue, good times and then some other event will make it hard once again.

You don't have to hope for my happiness. I'm very content and happy now while I have a job in this industry and will continue to be happy when I don't. I went thru much of what has happened since the 80's and 9/11 and both had adverse effects on my career. I've had to start over twice at the bottom of another airline's seniority list. I don't work for a major, don't have retirement other than a 401K, sometimes work crappy hours and gone from home for 10 days or more at times. I do make a decent living but it was over 20 years getting here. Guys at the majors make a hell of a lot more than me, have better benefits and more time off. I'm happy for them, glad they made it. I'm not sitting here everyday, miserable and mad at the world because they are there and I'm not.

The reason I'm not like you? Because I came to realize that life is very short and you don't base your happiness on a job, because that's what it is, a job. I'm fortunate that I have a job that I enjoy and can make a living doing it.
Did I aspire to land a job at a major airline and be making $200K or more at this point? Sure I did, but due to circumstances I could not control, I did not and it had nothing to do with my qualifications.

Thank you for your concern about my happiness, although I suspect your concern is more about your happiness. I will enjoy what time I have left also, whether I'm flying or not. My sincere hope is that you and your peers can find happiness and contentment without expecting others to give it to you. Because if you can't, you will be miserable till the day you die.