Heard yesterday at the training center that starting with the march classes, it will be 50 per class. Good news!!!!! Welcome aboard.

 

I do not know how long it will stay at 50 per month, but it will be that way for at least March.

 

I've heard from several sources that 50 per class will only be for March. In April, the numbers should return to normal.

 

Just my gut feeling, but I would bet that it's to try and fill up the NYC ER as there is a mass exodus at the bottom of the list every AE. Did you look at the reserve numbers for March? February was OK but now they are back to hurting again next month, and that's with 1500 hours of flying shifting to ATL.

I think that they are going to stuff it full and not put out another bid for a good whille, or if they do it will have vacancies on it that junior guys can't hold. This way the bottom can't bail out and there won't be a repeat of last summer.

Course, with the new destinations and the increase in frequecy to several destinations just announced, we may end up back there anyway.

C'mon green slip gravy train!

 

That's 100 per month...

 

Aren't they planning for a May AE ?? Which would allow for guys to move from NYC to ATL.

 

Not sure how that's going to be possible, since a new hire can hold anything except a 767-400, 777, and, curiously, 73N in certain bases. With the 777 growth, there are going to be vacancies in 767 and 7ER in most if not all domiciles, and many are going to be filled by new hires from NYC7ER and NYCM88, as the senior guys will be moving up to 765 and 777, as well as M88A. Sorry, but there's no provision for an "AE for everyone but the new hires."

The only thing that's going to stop new hires from going NYC7ER (and thus bidding off it right away) is to pay what the flying should be worth (relative to domestic) so that senior guys will bid there by choice, or to stop having AE's altogether.

 

What stripalert said.

 

Which 73N bases can't a new hire hold? I see LAX has been going junior. Did it fill up on the last AE? Thanks.

-DL Wannabe

 

No need to apologize, especially since I didn't say anything about an AE for everyone but new hires. I said one with vacancies that most of them can't hold. i.e. captain positions (which none can hold) and some minor adjusting of fo's, but no major F/O vacancies except for NYC. That's just my opinion, I could be way off, but it's what I would do if I were them to keep a repeat of last summer from happening. I mean look at the conversion window, it ends in September. Thus, I think this bid was mainly to position bodies for the summer and you're not going to see much shifting until after that. I think that the couple of 777's coming on line now have already benn accounted for in previous bids. To be honest, my money would be on no AE at all for 5 or 6 months.

As far as shifting pay for one category or base or type of flying, ain't gonna happen. The company already approached the union about upping the pay for FO's on the ER in NYC, (maybe 88 as well don't know about that) and the union said no way. If we're going to talk about pay increases, it will be for everybody.