American hasn't hired since then, have they?

If that is true, then I can only hope that maybe they will follow Eagle's lead and offer choice of domicile.

 

Eagle offers base choices because they cant fill newhire classes. Somehow, I dont think AA will have problems filling classes like AE does.

 

They hired in 2000 and 2001, but junior guy being 1999 doesn't indicate to me that it's senior.

For United, DEN and JFK are going to newhires. Those used to be senior bases.



Edit - Hoss I'm getting old; when I wrote 2000, I thought that 9/11 happened in 2000. I would imagine that junior pilot on property was hired in '99, right?

 

pilot76 - AA was hiring right up to 9/11. Some of the 2001 hires were awarded Dallas right out of training, it will be years before they will be senior enough to hold DFW (assuming they ever get recalled.)

 

The last class hired had a DOH of 20-AUG-01

 

To the original poster,

I sincerely hope you get on at American Airlines. I worked at the same airline where my father put in 32 years and I absolutely loved it. Basically, I grew up with all my co-workers and was very loyal to the airline as a result.

As a furloughed American Airlines/TWA pilot, I will give you the downside to American Airlines and hopefully you can research enough upside traits to help motivate your quest for employment at American.

Slowing economy and high energy costs. I'll never profess to be an economics major, but at some point high energy costs will outpace fuel surcharges on tickets and it will eat into the airline's bottom line.

American is in contract negotiations. This may or may not have an effect on staffing levels which in turn affects recalls, hiring and the like. The negotiated contract may have an increase in hours flown per month, pref. bidding or other efficiencies which would affect staffing. I don't have a crystal ball but in my opinion this could affect the total number of AA pilots on the property. In addition (and I hope I am dead wrong), AMR will contend that they are losing millions a day due to high energy costs, the encroachment by low-cost carriers, and the efficiencies that are evolving to the mega-merged carriers and thus will hard nose the contracts with low-ball pay-raises (all the while enjoying their bonuses).

Aircraft acquisitions and recalls. These are two funny animals that affect training. The training center can only handle so many bodies at a time and add the possibility of a new aircraft type (?) and the log jam starts to form.

Age 65 rule. American seems to be only slightly affected by this. The removal of the Flight Engineer position (manned by pilots over 60) and the fact that American has a very good retirement seems to have kept this variable a minor one.

Finally, my favorite, the dreaded recall of the TWA pilots and their sour attitude towards everything that is not red. The labor relations at American aren't really friendly as say a Southwest, maybe even Continental. However, I think the labor climate may become a little more sporty when all the recalls return. I can liken this to the current situation between the USAir guys and the America West guys. I'm not here to say who is right/wrong but I think it's a fair statement that there is no love loss between the two groups AND no one has been furloughed. Fast forward this to the TWA/American Airlines pilot group and many will have returned from furlough after 5+ years of furlough. I'm not here to say which group is right/wrong with the TWA/AA group, just that in my opinion there will be bitter feelings permeating a labor situation that is already somewhat less than optimum...just my opinion.

To the original poster, my best wishes and hope you are quick to join the ranks at American. A career at American for you offers more than a pay check but sentimental value. I have walked that path before and can fondly appreciate it.

Regards,

FF

 

Hi!

I know a guy at:
DAL, who told me to go to a better airline
NWA, who said there are better airlines to go to than NWA
CAL, who wishes he was at a better flying job
UPS, who does not like flying for them

So, where to go???????
cliff
YIP

 

Netjets, may be the place for you.

 

Flifast,
Based on your post, it seems as though you are against pref bidding. Is this the case and if so, have you ever used it? Pref bidding seems to be a touch issue.
Lonzo

 

Pref bidding and an associated concept called 'demand staffing' were used by TWA in our last few years. It worked very well due to the fact that the union ran the system and controlled the parameters with pilot input. Given AA's employee relations, past and current, I don't have any faith at all it would be a good thing because the company would run the system. When in full swing , pref bidding reduces the total head count required to man the airline, thereby reducing pilot costs. Instituting such a system when there are still people on furlough status would just delay further those pilots recall.


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